Tarp Tent Scarp Owners Thread

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16/11/2011 at 19:12
What guy lines are folk using to replace damaged piece on scarp 1
18/11/2011 at 02:11
Depends on which damaged piece, IIRC the normal guy lines are 1.5mm.
18/11/2011 at 08:04
Its the corner section that Gave up the ghost when I tripped over it one night

I'm after some replacement guy line that won't stretch in the cold or wet
18/11/2011 at 08:49

Doesn't matter, as long as it fits the line loc and doesn't stretch - 1.5 - 3mm Dyneema cored or a good quality polyester guy. (unless you really want a reflective guy... )

 The main thing as I discovered, is, once finally adjusted before turning in,  to tie the tail of the guy on the top lineloc around the taut guy with a half hitch - this stops it possibly slipping when wet and blowy (which it does IME)

or Robins solution:

Robin wrote (see)
Actually there's one other tip I'd like to add, which also applies to other tents. The lineloks can slip when then cord is wet. This happened on my last trip. The cure is to take the loose end, loop it around the linelok and secure with a simple slip knot.

18/11/2011 at 10:17

Anybody had any problems with a stitching and cord problem, as described below?...

I've only used it twice so far, and already the stitching that holds the outer tent elastic connecter that is sewn to the inner plastic triangular shaped fixing has failed on 2 of the corners.

http://s3.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/27039/gallery/scarp_%28600_x_450%29.jpg?width=350&height=263&mode=max



I sent that to Henry, he has asked for more info, so have sent him a picture and this reply....

I attaching a picture for you to see, as you will see the LHS one is the one (of the 2) I have had to stitch, and on inspection the RHS one which has your original stitching is already breaking/coming away on one side of the stitching.
It also turns out that my friend who had one at the same time as me had the same problem, one of his broke away when hooking up the inner to outer for the 1st time (that also happened to mine with one of them...hooking 1st time in garden!) So as you can imagine the stitching must be very weak.

I also have had a slight problem with the guyline cord, so sent him this message as well...

Also the guyline cord that you supplied has started to somehow seperate, so that the inner thread in the cord is pushing out of the nylon outer.

He replied...

The other cording issue sounds like a "hernia".   It happens when the outer casing becomes shorter than the inner core.  Not much we can do about that although if you unknot the cord and pull the sheath toward the cut end you may be able make the inner spectra core pull back inside.  Then retie under tension so the the outer casing stays taut to the cord end.

I have replied....

On the cord issue, I have had about 10 or more tents throughout the years, never has that happened before, even after years of use. and remember I've had this tent up once in the garden to test and sort it out, and for 3 night on the hills, in good weather (not very windy etc)

Henry' reply....

 Ah, ok, it's the inner not the fly -- I had understood that it was the fly clips.  Now it makes more sense given the construction. In any event, this is the first report I've had of this particular problem.  My guess is that some stitching got left of that corner elastic and/or was not properly backstitched.  From looking at the one on the right, it sure looks to me like that one can not pull away. Try hard to tear it away and see what happens.  We can certainly send you another interior if this one isn't satisfactory.  Let me know.


I'll send you some more cording--how much do you need?--but have you have had this type of cord before?  The inner core is spectra fiber and the outer sheath is nylon. They are independent--the outer is there for grip, reflectivity,  and inner core protection.  The spectra core is exceptionally strong and completely non-stretch.  This the strongest, lightest, most stretchproof cord we know of (with reflectivity thrown in for good measure) but, yes, it is possible to have hernias with it.  Hernias will not affect performance. 

I have replied...in a nutshell don't need a replacement inner, but have asked for some new cord.

Edited: 18/11/2011 at 18:49
18/11/2011 at 19:34

As you may know from previous posts, my Scarp 1 had a 'small' problem on the Galttee's meet.

 I sent Henry an E-mail yesterday, explaining what happened and how it happened, with some Pics of the damaged Main Pole.

 I got an E-mail this morning from him saying, "I've posted a new pole, repair sleeve, fabric to repair holes in pole sleeve and extra guy lines and stakes" With detailed instructions of how to repair 'holes'.

 I can't fault him for service nor such a quick, very good responce. He also asked if anything else was damaged and he would replace that/them as soon as I told him.

 That's what I call service!!

 Some of the 'bigger' tent making companys may not have responded so wel, or as quickly.

18/11/2011 at 20:02
Hi Scarp owners, where can I get a scarp 2 in UK or have to from US?
18/11/2011 at 20:21

 You might get a used one on here or Ebay, etc. I got mine from Backpacking Lite, (never been used).

 Otherwise you need to order from Henry, www.tarptent.com .

18/11/2011 at 20:24
Hi Guys,

I have not been able to post last few days as in Us house hunting.

Last Friday night was for me was the most windy I have ever camped in, as Paul mentioned my Scarp held up very well once nailed to the ground with a dozen guy lines.

The gusts where absolutley mental but the Scarp handled it all in its stride, as Paul said we slept under my fly sheet and used his as as ground sheet.

The gust that took out Pauls tent sounded like a freight train, I have photo showing all the guy lines and will post it when I get home next week (using phone to post).

Hi Paul,

Thats great Henry is sorting you out.

Talk later folks,

Stephen
18/11/2011 at 20:26
Nian

You can get them from Germany:

http://www.sackundpack.de/product_info.php?cPath=165_228&products_id=2749
18/11/2011 at 21:01
Hi Husky, ed, thanks a lot.
18/11/2011 at 22:56

 Hi Stephen,

 What a meet eh, must do again in the not to distant future

 Hope things are working out in US.

 I'm very happy with response from Henry, an excellent response and so quick

 I don't really know what more he could have done, I wasn't expecting Henry to do as much as he did, IE. extra guys, stakes.

 See soon,

 Slantie,

 Paul.

19/11/2011 at 00:09
Hiya Paul,

It was a great meet alright and we indeed must have another one soon.

I am hoping I will be able to get back over before I move at the end of January, we might even get out up your neck of the woods for a night or two.

Things are going fine in the Us, have looked at about a dozen houses and I am hoping to get it all wrapped but by tomorrow.

That was indeed great service from Henry and it really shows his commitment to service.

The Scarp is a cracking tent alright.

Be good.

Stephen
19/11/2011 at 01:00

Me, be good........ Nah, don't think so

 I'll be my usual self........ Crazy as a rabid dog!!!

 I'm off camping in Tollymore Forest, with"girls", Fri. and Sat. (feckin camp site), to see how the "new" two manage, easy routes only

 We'll use the tunnel for them, I'll use a tarp and bivvy bag for me and mut.

 First time camping for them, Mizcha, is starting DoE Bronze, so really looking forward to it. Starts planning ' 1st expadition' in new year, so with a bit of luck should know a bit more than most.

 I've already taught her basic nav. skills and how to pitch tunnel on own, (if needed).

 When Scarp is back to use, I'll lend to her if required, (as long as I'm not using!!!).

. As you say cracking tent.

 Paul.

19/11/2011 at 09:56

Good to see that Tarptent respond quickly to issues. 

Pity about the minor quality issues on Alans tent, but it looks easily handstitched.

21/11/2011 at 16:02
  
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http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/37924/Gallery/2011-11-12_08-08-27_689.jpg

Hi folks,

Here are some morning after pictures from the Galtees meet, the only guy lines visible are the extra white and yellow ones added as the 4 I normally use are two dark to pick up in the pics.

Cheers,

Stephen

21/11/2011 at 18:54
 The ones with the white Camcleat tensioners where 'borrowed' from my wrecked tent 
21/11/2011 at 18:57

They did the Job

21/11/2011 at 19:13

Aye, they did that all right!!

 If hadn't had them and your extra guys, we may have been "up sh*t creek without a paddle"

21/11/2011 at 19:37

It could of got hairy alright 

Sure we could of kipped in the forest like Ray Mears

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