Tarp Tent Scarp Owners Thread

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13/10/2011 at 12:09
A select band of brothers
13/10/2011 at 13:10

We are indeed Robin

One thing I would like to discuss is how does the Scarp compares to other tents in Winter mode.

I am moving to the US at Xmas and I will be hoping to camp in some serious snow fall and the advice I have been given is to get a Hillie Soulo or Unna.

How would you think the Scarp with Crossing poles would compare to the Soulo or Unna.

13/10/2011 at 13:48
There is a picture of it somewhere (Martin Rye?) with the cross poles and standing up to a fair dump of snow; no doubt Franco will have a plethora of images.....
13/10/2011 at 14:39

I remember the one now Ed, I spotted it on BPL a while back.

They where posted by Chris Townsend.

I know we spke off forum on this but could you do quick comparison between the Scarp and Unna for the 3 other OM Scarp members we know off that may drop by later

13/10/2011 at 14:41

I'm still here

13/10/2011 at 17:23

i bought the Scarp as my winter tent,  UK winter hillwalking that is, not mountaineering, so if its no good with cross over poles it tough on me!

I'm am looking for a summer tent @ 1 kg though, a Scarp lite would be ideal...

13/10/2011 at 17:33

I can't really see why an Unna/Scarp comparison would be useful; they are different animals...well, tents.

An Unna/Rab Summit comparison however....although that would be for another thread...

13/10/2011 at 20:21

Hi El,

Its a cuben Scapr you want 

Hi Ed,

So the Unna is far stonger than the Scarp, sound about right.

Is the Summit  a bit of a condensation machine?

13/10/2011 at 20:39

I guess you've seen the snowy Scarp in this BPL thread ? Supposedly stood up OK in that snow...

and here

I haven't used my crossing poles yet, but it's been good in wind without them.

I haven't camped in 'proper' snow for a few years anyhow

I think Henry would make a killing in Europe if he designed a Scarp type tent with the basic features of the Laser Comp/Akto/Power Lizard etc. allied with the cut and end struts of the Scarp

i.e. Dark Green, one door/porch so allowing weight nearer 1kg rather than 1.5kg .(ditch the crossing poles facility on this edition)  . It's a '1.5 man' at the moment - reducing the size a little to make it a '1 man' would allowweight reduction...

Edited: 13/10/2011 at 20:43
13/10/2011 at 20:40

It's made of eVent Stephen; only used it three times thus far and had condensation - about 3 droplets - in it once; I was with that bad-luck Scottish oaf and there is always trouble when he's about.

I think for winter it will be an exceptionally secure and condensation free little number

13/10/2011 at 20:54

Hi Mole,

The Scarp does look Ok in the snow on those links.

I do like the space in it, its huge compare to my old Laser Comp.

What you are saying does make sense about making it more European friendly, sounds bit like a Moment with a removeable inner

Hi Ed,

Sounds like a good tent, I heard yourself and that particular Scot had to put up with  very bad condensation your last jaunt

13/10/2011 at 20:57
It was a tad damp; OK for an experienced mountainman such as myself, but I think the jock was a little fazed by the conditions
13/10/2011 at 21:02

not like the moment Stephen - with a square end still - with room for my big feet

13/10/2011 at 21:03

Ed, You are just so brilliant 

13/10/2011 at 21:05
Mole wrote (see)

not like the moment Stephen - with a square end still - with room for my big feet


I hear you Mole, I was going to get one before the Scarp and the narrow ends put me off.

I do love the space in the Scarp

13/10/2011 at 21:06
I know Stephen; it's a cross one has to bear
13/10/2011 at 21:09

I say you could get a UL cross for overnighters

13/10/2011 at 22:21
I echo other people's complaints about the zip shield bit getting stuck in the zip. Was one of the saddest moments, after 4 nights in it (brand new!), I got the zip properly stuck (jammed, couldn't move it at all!). I made the decision to cut it out, as I decided a closing door was more important

I also ordered the wrong inner! But that was entirely my fault! Went for the mesh liner instead of the solid, got confused with the words! So if anyone would like a cheeky straight swap, I'd be up for it!
13/10/2011 at 22:44
The easiest way to avoid jamming a zip is to use a zip pull and use it this way :
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/odds/Zip-pull-right.jpg


not like this :
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/Francophoto/odds/Zip-pull-wrong.jpg


Franco
13/10/2011 at 22:49

Nice in theory....but, in practice (and I use pulls properly) the Scarp does 'lock up' the zip all too often; it is a PITA..

At the end of the day I doubt it is avoidable given the nature of the fabric's used?

Tarptent could use a WM 'stiffener' - my Western bags zips never get stuck; unlike every other bags zips I have used..

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