We are indeed Robin
One thing I would like to discuss is how does the Scarp compares to other tents in Winter mode.
I am moving to the US at Xmas and I will be hoping to camp in some serious snow fall and the advice I have been given is to get a Hillie Soulo or Unna.
How would you think the Scarp with Crossing poles would compare to the Soulo or Unna.
I remember the one now Ed, I spotted it on BPL a while back.
They where posted by Chris Townsend.
I know we spke off forum on this but could you do quick comparison between the Scarp and Unna for the 3 other OM Scarp members we know off that may drop by later
I'm still here
i bought the Scarp as my winter tent, UK winter hillwalking that is, not mountaineering, so if its no good with cross over poles it tough on me!
I'm am looking for a summer tent @ 1 kg though, a Scarp lite would be ideal...
I can't really see why an Unna/Scarp comparison would be useful; they are different animals...well, tents.
An Unna/Rab Summit comparison however....although that would be for another thread...
Its a cuben Scapr you want
So the Unna is far stonger than the Scarp, sound about right.
Is the Summit a bit of a condensation machine?
I guess you've seen the snowy Scarp in this BPL thread ? Supposedly stood up OK in that snow...
I haven't used my crossing poles yet, but it's been good in wind without them.
I haven't camped in 'proper' snow for a few years anyhow
I think Henry would make a killing in Europe if he designed a Scarp type tent with the basic features of the Laser Comp/Akto/Power Lizard etc. allied with the cut and end struts of the Scarp
i.e. Dark Green, one door/porch so allowing weight nearer 1kg rather than 1.5kg .(ditch the crossing poles facility on this edition) . It's a '1.5 man' at the moment - reducing the size a little to make it a '1 man' would allowweight reduction...
It's made of eVent Stephen; only used it three times thus far and had condensation - about 3 droplets - in it once; I was with that bad-luck Scottish oaf and there is always trouble when he's about.
I think for winter it will be an exceptionally secure and condensation free little number
The Scarp does look Ok in the snow on those links.
I do like the space in it, its huge compare to my old Laser Comp.
What you are saying does make sense about making it more European friendly, sounds bit like a Moment with a removeable inner
Sounds like a good tent, I heard yourself and that particular Scot had to put up with very bad condensation your last jaunt
not like the moment Stephen - with a square end still - with room for my big feet
Ed, You are just so brilliant
Mole wrote (see)
I hear you Mole, I was going to get one before the Scarp and the narrow ends put me off.
I do love the space in the Scarp
I say you could get a UL cross for overnighters
Nice in theory....but, in practice (and I use pulls properly) the Scarp does 'lock up' the zip all too often; it is a PITA..
At the end of the day I doubt it is avoidable given the nature of the fabric's used?
Tarptent could use a WM 'stiffener' - my Western bags zips never get stuck; unlike every other bags zips I have used..
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