quasi-UK owners thread
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I'm kicking myself a little, I had discussed with Henry adding some guy attachments at the pole apex but I plain 'ole forgot at order time. I might return it to have them fitted. Two reasons:
As the Notch is only 4 pegging points you need all 4 or its a collapse.
FYI the supplied Easton poles, they bend very easily. When I simulate strong wind they move a fair bit. The trekking poles I'm looking at fold up small to 14.7" which is similar to the Notch's packed length and have locking parts so should be solid.
I did not use the extra tie of points but they where available if I wanted them.
Regarding the Easton poles I don't think the shelter would be anywhere near as stong if they were used in lieu of treking poles.
One issue I did have on first US trip was the trail was so damn flat that my poles ended up strapped to my pack for the whole weekend, thats why I have held on to my Scarp when I bought he the Hillie Soulo.
The weight of the poles and the SS1 was the same as the Scarp, these days I only use Poles with Flickloks as the Screw type poles drive me bloody bonkers.
The SS1 now has some snow-loading attachment points to use some short sticks. Good idea, if the same were done with the Notch it is drifting more into 4 season. Not like the Scarp though as the Scarp has the crossing arches and solid inner roof (little mesh).
The chance of breakage is slim but my observance from watching tents at campsites unstitch from the ground is the springiness in the poles basically wiggle the pegs out (deform, straighten, deform, straighten...). Again, you don't have that problem with the Scarp due to the long guy line attached to the hoop. Additional guy attached at pole apex will both increase the bend on the Easton poles (more pulling down force) and reduce chance of peg pulling. So really, if its hoolie, you need solid trekking poles.
The optional Easton poles from TT are so light+cheap+small, even if you are using trekking poles, I'd argue its worthwhile taking one of the Easton poles as a spare if you managed to break the trekking poles. 2oz / 57g say TT, my scales say 50g.
I've not used trekking poles, apart from one when I was healing an injury, but from reading reviews, flat is when you'd meant to use them the most for speed? They also have some knee-relieving benefit on descents too. Little ascending benefit which is why I'm looking at these which pack small so not poking out my backpack. So according to pro-trekking fans you should have used them all day and got there quicker / gone further.
Hmmm, so if you're not using the trekking poles when walking, why didn't you buy another Scarp? I know why you didn't get a Notch as concerned too small. If its only a backpack storage, the Notch is ample big enough for anyone not tall+wide. Higher roofline, only pertinent area smaller is the width of the sleeping area. After I buy the trekking poles I'll measure/photo the sleeping area, I reckon it will be wide enough via lowering the poles, using the fact the solid inner and battub allow me to widen the base, bringing the batchtub nearer the ground. I'll post later what Franco showed - the Easton poles I have not won't let me do this easily.
I'm going for a single Flicklok with nesting segments will be the strongest with flexibility to adjust for the 105cm-115cm the Notch needs (actually 100cm-120cm to allow for unevenness in the campsite).
This image from Franco on BPL shows the basic idea to widen the Notch's inner via lowering the pole and moving it out, via the velco bringing the inner with it. Once I saw this I knew I'd figured around all the main issues with the Notch's size. FYI you can do this one or both sides to fit with the desired vestibule/inner size split.
Lord knows why this is bottles of water rather than 8-pack of bear....
I should of added that in parts the trail was so tight (trees and bushes) that poles would of only got in my way, all a bit weird as I am used to open mountain.
The going really was like a doddle even at fast pace with a heavish pack (it was still winter)
I still have the Scarp as I did not sell it in the end
That does offer a nice space
Twiglegs got one from the US, I still have mine in the their also, my mothers house is rammed with sentimental tat and clothes
I am hoping to buy a wee holiday cottage in Ireland soon will have penty of storage space.
FYI I've packed it up. For some reason, I don't seem to have it as well rolled as when it was delivered
However, packed its measuring as diameter 4.5 inches and length 16 inches (TT says 3.5" x 16") with the Easton poles insides. That's a volume of 2.7L (but if I could pack it better then it should be 1.7L according to TT). On my low-tech kitchen scales its 900g, it should be 850g, and I've not seam-sealed it yet. It's a bit shorter and a bit wider than the TN LC.
Does it pitch right to the ground if the poles are lowered (like a laser comp does) or is there always a few inches gap at the bottom?
Not having seen one of these types of tent before, would they cope in a 'hoolie', close to what a Scarp would?
What about coping in wind on open ground?
I'm not thinking about buying one, either Notch or SS, I like my Scarp too much.
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