once they are zipped inside the outer layer, the jacket becomes a mare to take on and off
So don't zip them in...
Seriously, you really don't lose anything much, and since your shell moves over your fleece more easily there's much less endency for your inner layers to ruck up.
Yes I have made sure that the cuff fixing points are secured but there's a lot of play in them so the fleece tends to travel further than the end of the sleeve before it starts to pull back.
Would prefer to zip it in as I also use it as a winter jacket in Scandinavia where I travel to regularly. Taking one on and off on aeropalnes and trains is easier if you have to do it once.
I have contacted TNF directly to ask the same question...awaiting reply and not holding breath!
> Taking one on and off on aeropalnes and trains is easier if you have to do it once.
I simply grab hold of both cuffs and pull my arm out of both sleeves at once if I want to take off both fleece and waterproof.
Zip-in fleeces are pretty pointless, adding unnecessary weight and cost, leaving a cold strip down the front, and making the fleece a loose fit. Possibly okay for dog-walking, but pointless for outdoor use.
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