Vango Helium 200 vs Terra Nova Laser

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26/04/2009 at 23:44
http://www.vango.co.uk/products/tentsinfo.aspx?productid=40&modelid=48&id=1

http://www.terra-nova.co.uk/Clearance/Terra_Nova_Tents/Laser_GREEN_END_OF_LINE.html

I want a solotent thats bigger than Hilleberg Akto so i have come down to these two.

Vango 200 plus

Cheaper
Wider
Looks better, internal guylines who keeps flysheet tense.
Higher att end.
Higher bathtub.


Laser plus

Higher
Two doors.
Two guylines.
Better ventilation.
Longer.

A am medium tall (180 cm) so the lengt is probebly no issue for me.



What do you guys think?
27/04/2009 at 14:27
Hi Michael. I picked up a  new helium 200 off fleabay and its a great solo tent if you like a bit more room. Pitches quickly "as one" once you get the pole in the tight sleeve! I'm about 180cm and headroom is ok but the "head" end of the tent does slope down quite severely and you may end up with a face full of inner at some point. I've never been in a laser  but with a strut and guline at both ends this may not be such a problem.My helium weighs about 1400g so in that respect is similar to the laser. I had to replace  the supplied toothpick pegs though. There aren't any outer guys from the fly at the pole but the inner tension bands seem to work well.I think the laser you link to is a 2008 model which may only have one door. I think the two door is new for 2009. Pricewise i don't think i would pay the £220 rrp for the helium 200 as you can get a new laser competition for that  nowadays! Cheapest i've seen it the helium is £180 at summits online. I know Cotswolds have a video of the helium 100 being pitched on their website and over may bank holiday have tent shows  so they may have the 200  and the laser pitched so you can compare them. As my helium was a bargain and for the amount of use it gets i'm happy with it but as with any tent i would try before you buy!
27/04/2009 at 15:27

As an afterthought if you like to sit up in a tent the laser obviously has at least 5cm more headroom. I have to slightly dip my head in the helium to avoid touching the inner and i think i'm 178cm with a 50cm backlength for rucksacks (if thats any help!).

By the way, Springfield camping have the 2008 laser in green at £199 and the 2009 two door version in green or red at £255 (cheaper than the 2008 on terra nova's clearance page!!).

I'm almost tempted myself at that price (whispers so other half can't hear !)

27/04/2009 at 15:40

Hi ME9,

I've owned both these tents and weight wise they dont feel that different. However, when it cam to space I found the laser to be much roomier. Felt very clostaphobic in the helium all night and also the porch wasnt as good for cooking in. I've sold both on know and opted for the 2 man laser just because the extra space in relation to weight was minimal.

Go to your nearest outdoorshop who have both and asked them to pitch them so you can have a look for yourself. I know Cotswold outdoors stock both of these if there is one near you.

Good luck

27/04/2009 at 18:13

PORCH!!! Porch should be one of THE most important things. Was saying a few days ago to someone on here that of the last 10 wild camps more than half I've had to cook in the porch due to weather. You need a decent porch and as far as I know the porch isn't very good on the Vango, but surprisingly larger than you'd think on the Laser and Coomp tents.

There is just no point having a tent with no porch in this country IMO!

27/04/2009 at 18:26
I don't know about these two tents in particular but i can say in reference to porch that if the tent pitches fly first and the inner therefore clips onto it or the poles then if needed you can unclip the inner at the front of the tent and push it back keeping your kit dry inside the tent and being able to put your stove on the ground that would be under your tent. Just have to be careful not to spill because when you pull you inner back out you could get your groundsheet in a foodful mess. Just a thought =-)
27/04/2009 at 21:25

I am swedish and we have the laser here but not helium. I have to buy the pig in a sack because i can probebly not see any of them.

The thing with Laser is the polesleve that one has to tie with a knot, a knot!.  Hate it but yes its a detail. Wy not make it the same way like helium.

And yes i agree that a porch is important for cooking. I always cook in the porch.

17/05/2009 at 15:49
Hi,
First of all good info and helpful comments, keep it up! What I'm really posting for is to see if anyone who has a Helium and doesnt want the supplied pegs would be willing to sell them. I've recently bought a Helium myself and its a great little tent, perfect for my height (5'7) However Ive made a couple of adjustments including an extra pole to convert the door into a porch for cooking and a couple of other things. Long story short, I need a few more pegs (3 would do) and although the supplied pegs are useless in stormy conditions, they work perfectly when the weather is fine and are very small and light, which is what I'm looking for. I cant find replacement pegs anywhere so I'm asking here on the offchance.
If anyone has any please contact me, remson69@hotmail.com, to arrange stuff.
Cheers,
Jo
10/07/2009 at 21:57

I wanted to ask this exact question,  but as someone has already asked it I thought I'd bump this one up instead. 

The helium 200 seams like a really good deal, it does not look that different to the laser, but is much cheaper, and comes with seams sealed!  Anyome got experience with both???  I want to use as two man thogh, well, one 6ft man and one 5 10 woman. I dont understand why this argument is not just as popular as the akto vs laser??

10/07/2009 at 22:04

I think you will find the Laser far superior.

However the laser comp vs Akto is a blind alley as nothing compares to an Akto.

10/07/2009 at 22:12

I'm always interested in these comparision threads because being tall it's also an issue for me.  How is it that tent manufacturers generally dont give decent sized porches on smaller tents? I knw the weight issue, and I know that inners can be clipped back etc, but I just want a decent sized porch I can sit in and cook, and be protected from rain, and not have to curl up in a tent half on my side and eat. bloody grim that.

Anyway, i have a tarptent rainshadow ii (one kilo) coming which ticks all the boxes for me wild camping alone, and if the missus comes as well. its light, large, fast pitch, and reall adjustable.  I also bought a vaude ii taurus which is heavier at just over 2kg but has a big tent area and a decent porch, and the inner is attached to the outer so no issues if the rain is coming down when you pitch.  And with the vaude, if you do unclip the inner, you can get acres of space. oh, and its super cheap at gaynors sports at the moment (but only on their website, they wont match the web price in store, despite the fact that the damn things are in the stock room not 25 feet away from the till - bizarre). 

11/07/2009 at 07:00
Fossil Bluff wrote (see)

I think you will find the Laser far superior.

However the laser comp vs Akto is a blind alley as nothing compares to an Akto.


not sure about that anymore fb. the terra nova voyager superlite(2009) is now the same weight.if i could have my money back for my akto then i would go for the voyager.i bet the pegs are those crappy toothpicks though. i do like the layout of the voyager design though.still not talking to my akto after pole snapping on its first outing.
11/07/2009 at 07:16
He he he he

I thought about the voyager too. But Hilleberg textiles are still more robust.

You can't blame your Akto for you falling over on it's pole after a litre of brandy........
11/07/2009 at 07:33
lmao! did not get chance to have drink fb. was still pitchin it when a gust of wind hit it side on and flattened it.it popped back up and i thought  thank feck for that.there looked to be a slight kink in the pole but it felt ok(should of took it down and checked properly)as i was readjusting it ,another gust hit it and pole snapped and went straight through the sleeve.smg have done a good job on it though.
11/07/2009 at 07:42
I expect you raised your voice a tad at the time Ray. Something like: 'darn, that was really rotten luck'.
11/07/2009 at 07:54
there were a few words muttered all the way back to car at sykeside campsite.
11/07/2009 at 11:48
Or what about the tarptent scarp/scarp 2?????????  Seams to be more room all round, and a bit more versatile with the extra pole set??
15/06/2012 at 10:40
Just purchased the Helium 200 for £199 for 2 week alps trip in 5 weeks time, hope to get a w/e away first. Hope its big enough me being 6-2inch.
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