Wet feet and soggy little toes

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Ninja Marmot
03/03/2002 at 21:45
My children are growing like weeds at the moment and it would be pointless to spend a lot of money getting them nice waterproof gore-tex boots which may not fit them in 12 weeks.

So as a consequence, they can get wet feet very often, which makes the little one unhappy. She has some HiTec boots, but she has big feet (7) so we can't get cheap kiddies' sizes. I wondered if Sealskins socks would help? Are they the panacea they claim to be? At least when she grows they will stretch to accommodate the next size up - unlike the boots.
Clive Clasby (Old Git)
03/03/2002 at 23:25
Sealskins always made my feet cold
Goretex boot liners are a better bet but I dont know if they do them in wee sizes (like an ultra baggy GTX sock)
Ninja Marmot
04/03/2002 at 08:23
Errr - size seven - hardly 'wee' - Sir C is only one size bigger!
Never heard of gore-tex boot liners. Where from, how much, do they 'grow'? Otherwise I may as well keep buying bl**dy boots.
Surely if the sealskins make your feet feel cold it can't be as bad as the cold feeling you get when you've been in a peat bog in February, can it?
Need to keep her motivated, she's decided that she DOES like hill walking after all but the foot problem makes her unhappy - no, dammit! It can make her cry at times!
Hedgehope Aztec
04/03/2002 at 09:14
Jeannie, have you tried a good fabric waterproofer. I used a Grangers spray on my Sarah's Hi-tecs and didn't get any complaints (well not about wet feet anyhow, just don't ask her about Helvellyn).
Hedgehope Aztec
04/03/2002 at 09:17
PS. As far as Sealskinz go, I've got a pair of their gloves, waste of money.
Orange Alex Ford
04/03/2002 at 09:28
I've used the Grangers spray and the kids (and myself for that matter) have never complained (other than when the waters gone over the top of the boots of course!)

The gore-tex boot liners often come in a lovely military green, and are frequently available in army surplus shops. I think I've seen 'em for about a tenner, but don't quote me!
Ninja Marmot
04/03/2002 at 09:45
I did wonder about trying the Grangers spray as we have some in for the times I can be bothered to reproof mine. Forgot to ask you guys if it would work on non-gore boots. Must try it NOW.

Errr, tell me more about Helvellyn! And why do they call you Danger Mike on here? You are always jam-packed-full of very useful info Mike!!!

I did worry about the sealskinz feeling rough against the skin - Em suffers from eczema on her feet and can't wear anything harsh-feeling. Gore boots liners, hey? Interesting idea. Has anyone actually used them? Do they feel nice?
Rob Sutherland
04/03/2002 at 09:56
You can use the sealskins with normal socks underneath. The Mid Light version is probably the best option for this (or the long version). I had wool socks under my thermal sealskins at the weekend mountain biking in the Pentlands and it proved very effective. Kept my feet warm and dry until we had to ford a burn that was in spate due to the melt water - very cold and mid-thigh deep. Brrrrr! Other than that they did a fine job though!
Si
04/03/2002 at 10:28
Don't Sealskinz come in specific boot sizes? From wht I remember they dont stretch very well (at all), but I may be thinking of another brand of w/proof sock. Worth checking out if you don't want to bind her feet Japanese stylie!

Si
Lloyd Bower
04/03/2002 at 12:04
I use Sealskinz for mtn biking and would certainly recommend the Mid Light versions.

They're pretty much waterproof, though obviously water will leak in through the tops. For extra warmth I wear a thin liner sock underneath.
Rob Sutherland
04/03/2002 at 13:00
They don't stretch very much, but mine gave a wee bit with use (which was just as well as getting em on the first time was a battle!). They aren't perfect, but do a pretty good job on the bike. I am wondering if neoprene is the way forward though - possibly a full wet suit - after the weekends fun and games!
Ben Hedley
04/03/2002 at 13:28
seal skinz look ok for mtbin but ain't they abit on the thick side fr walking. i wouldn't want to wear them as a thorlo replacement and they seem waaay to thick for liners, try buying them a pair of leather bootys from somewhere like John Gaynor sports (ambleside) or teh outdoor show next week. they stay dry for longer with a good coating of n nikwax than fabric boots do. other thant that, try to ride a sheep across the boggy bits!
craig fairless 1
04/03/2002 at 14:44
I have a pair of sealskinz that I carry as a spare. I wear Goretex boots, if water gets in over the top these keep my little feet warm and dry. They have a waterproof seal, which I have not yet tested though it seems like a good idea. They are far better that gore-tex socks which are not flexible (even the Berghaus ones)and very breathable. I wear a thin liner sock underneath and they are still comfortable.
Lloyd Bower
04/03/2002 at 17:22
Musty admit I use Thorlo trekking socks for walking, they're so comfortable.
I only wear a thin pair of liner socks under the sealskinz when mtn biking but it makes all the difference out of summer.
Ben Hedley
04/03/2002 at 19:18
tried Yeti's???????
Ninja Marmot
04/03/2002 at 19:33
Little Emma thinks a yeti is an abominable snowman. Care to elucidate 4 her?

Hee hee.

I have all on getting her to wear the waterproof overtrousers - 'Mum, they're just SO not fashionable!'
I've no chance with gaiters. Anyway would they stop the osmotic action of her booties? Hmm, as for your suggestion that she rides a sheep!!!
Orange Alex Ford
04/03/2002 at 19:39
Ben...is there any Welsh blood in you?

(...Riding sheep...I'll get my coat!)
Hedgehope Aztec
04/03/2002 at 22:46
Granger's will work with fabric boots!! (Unless Hi-tec have started using gore-tex and not told anyone).
Sealskinz gloves are CRAP. I bought mine to use for winter scrambling. Waterproof and a good grip, I thought. No way even with liners when you touch cold rock it goes straight through and as they don't breath the result is frozen and numb fingers, so you can't feel a frigg'n hand hold. I've not used the socks so take advice from those above (though I wouldn't buy them). I use the gloves for cycling now, but I've just come back from a 20 mile ride and they are wet inside.

Helvellyn is Sarah's story.....

Jam-packed info? not really just learnt the cheap/hard way.

The danger bit comes from an earlier thread 'close shaves' I didn't think I'd had any, but when I sat down and thought about it......
Ben Hedley
04/03/2002 at 23:54
alex.. deffo not. im from Luton, Ma's from Nuneton and Pa's from Stubbington down saaaaf. Mints bringing the coat over now!

Jeannie. Trousers... try her with quicksilver/o-neil board babes trousers. Heavy but waterproof/warm/breathable and stylish with the cargo pockets etc. try high sports again (no i don't work there)

Mike... for winter, use Planet X etc neopreen overshoes if you don't like seal skins. Take em off before going to the bar tho!!!! Also Foz polar paw winter gloves. warm even when wet and rubbery grip. Though why do you use winter specific glove, i ride in Troy Lee XC's all yr and they plenty toasty enough. Thy get wet but so does everything. Unless you manage to ride in thick gore-tex gloves!
Mark Phillips
05/03/2002 at 11:16
Yetis are great but you need to have suitable boots for the rand to attach to.

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