Which lightweight boot??

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01/01/2009 at 23:21

Hey all,

I require a lightweight relatively waterproof walking boot.  It needs to be flexible enough so that I can jog in them but stiff enough so I can manage 20 miles over rocky terrain.

Looking at various reviews I'm down to the Berghaus Pro Rush mid @ £80 or the Inov-8 Roclite 390 @ £90.  I'll be using them every two to three weeks for hikes / jogs between 20 - 50 mile over terrain including fields, roads and rocks.  

I've heard the Roclites are not that durable but I imagine that's based on someone who walks a couple of times a week.  Would they last a year or two doing the above?

Any advice would be much appreciated, especially from from people that have worn the boots.   If there are any other boots that stand out then thoughts on those would be good as well.

Cheers

Baz

02/01/2009 at 09:46

AKU Icaro GTX? 

A friend has been using a pair for a year for everyday use (works outside)and really rates them

I have recently bought some AKU Lhasas for winter walking - seem pretty good so far.

02/01/2009 at 10:31
the roclites have a relatively soft sole. it's the trade off between durability and grip. having got used to grip with inov shoes i much prefer it over durability. you are talking about, say, up to 1200 miles a year and i'm not sure that any lightweight footwear would accomplish that.
02/01/2009 at 13:42

I have the Berghaus Pro Rush mid and I find them to be a comfortable lightweight boot.  I have not tried running in them myself (although the sole is flexible) and I am not doing the distances you are planning to provide an informed comment on durability but I would agree with Parky and suspect you will go through more than 1 pair of any boot in a year.

Just one other comment if you plan to buy the Berghaus online - they are made to European sizing and some UK companies quote the UK size conversion. It is worth checking the European size as although I usually go for one size greater than my size 9, I found the "size 9" to be perfect as it was a european size 44 (not 43).

02/01/2009 at 14:32
a note on sizing. meindl use proper shoe sizes ie they're the same as british ones.
02/01/2009 at 14:48
I got a pair of Salomon Elois GTX boots a few months ago and they are fantastic, they feel like your wearing trainer style boots, lightweight and waterproof. I wore them on a walk crossing a river a dozen times last weekend and have worn them in the snow a few times in the Lakes this year and they are fantastic, they do feel damp sometimes if I really submerge them but I think its more that they are cold a swhen I take by boots off my socks are dry. I was cautious of getting them after reading some iffy reviews but they have been ace for me and I have really tested them in snow and rivers, not by dunking them in sinks like some people do to test waterproof gear.
02/01/2009 at 14:55

It might be better, for your feet and your wallet, to buy 2 different pairs. Use a trail shoe for some, and a stiffer boot for others. You'll probably go through 2 pairs in a year anyway.

Personally, i would just use a pair of trail shoes.


 

02/01/2009 at 15:19
Barry Wills wrote (see)

I've heard the Roclites are not that durable but I imagine that's based on someone who walks a couple of times a week.  Would they last a year or two doing the above?

Inov-8s are famous for falling to pieces. Here is just one (eight page) catalogue of woe from a fellrunners forum - definitely lads that walk more than a couple of times a week. You can find loads of other similar complaints if you look about. Here's someone whose brand new Roclites started to fall to bits after a few days of walking the GR20. While they last they are good, but you'd need to be pretty lucky to get 2 years out of a pair. Not many folk use mids for jogging though. Or waterproof shoes for that matter.

Edited: 02/01/2009 at 15:22
02/01/2009 at 16:21

Fit is everything - the 'best' boot is the one that fits you properly. There's little point in getting recommendations from other people as it's extremely unlikely they have exactly the same shape feet as you!

The best thing you can do is to go to a shop (or shops) that has a decent boot fitter and a good range of boots. I'd even recommend that you don't read reviews, and don't seek opinions from others, as that may encourage you to buy a boot that doesn't fit you as well as it should...

02/01/2009 at 20:36
I've got a pair of the Pro Rush Mids and like them a lot as a light walking boot, but I don't think I could run far wearing them -- they're just a little too stiff and "supportive". I would go with the advice already given and get some proper running shoes and a pair of mids.
02/01/2009 at 21:39

Cheers for the advice guys.

 Unfortunately the event I'm entering next year (the Severn Trent Mountain Challenge) is generally a walking event so they stipulate ankle high boots.  To win it you have to jog at least 10 miles of it though.

If the Pro Rush Mids are a touch too stiff and supportive I reckon the roclites are probably the way to go.  In terms of fit my left foot is a full half a size smaller than right so I've never been able to find boots that fit perfectly.  Hopefully a thick pair of socks will do the trick. 

I've managed to find the 370s (non gtx) version for £70 so might plum for these as they're a bit cheaper.   If they do fall to pieces they'll be heading back to the shop sharpish for a refund and then I'll be adding 1 star reviews on here for them!

 Cheers Again.

02/01/2009 at 21:48
You'd be better off plumping for them, plumming is so classist.
02/01/2009 at 21:48

I agree with the advice already given about getting two pairs - trail shoe and mid.

If you are sure that you want to get the one pair, then  you could look at the Salomon Fastpackers.  These are mids based on a running shoe (the XA Pro 3D) but are a bit tricky to find in shops to try on.  I find them to be a good 'boot' for winter conditions, but again, like others, I'm not sure I would want to run in a mid.

You could also try a shoe (more flexible for jogging) and use with gaiters (eg Keen Targhee and many others).  I've used full gaiters and found it works well, as long as you spend the time to get them to fit tightly. 

For all footwear with a Goretex/Event/etc lining, it might be a bit of a lottery how long it remains watertight ...certainly over 1000 miles.

But as others have said, whatever the option, fit is everything.  

02/01/2009 at 22:10

Barry said,

"Unfortunately the event I'm entering next year (the Severn Trent Mountain Challenge) is generally a walking event so they stipulate ankle high boots."

Do keep up RobP.

02/01/2009 at 22:25
Yes, the world passes me by when I type so slowly/get distracted and there is a slew of new posts that have appeared in the time it takes to submit mine
02/01/2009 at 22:34
Know the feeling.
03/01/2009 at 17:00

I've just got a pair of Salomon Fastpacker Mid GTX, which may be the nearest to what you want. They are light but have good flexible soles. There's a brief description on my blog: http://blogpackinglight.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/christmas-presents/

 So far they've been very good.

03/01/2009 at 22:17
I bought a pair of lightweight Aku Slope boots today.

They have quite a shallow sole unit and are particularly light, with large areas of fabric on their uppers with a Gore Tex liner. I've had Gore-tex lined boots before and tbh they started to leak quite quickly, but here's to another attempt!

I didn't really intend to buy a pair of boots -- had gone for a fleece -- but my current leather boots are overkill for Dartmoor and the coast path, or wet grassy airfields and campsite for that matter. Did have a pair of lightweight Salomons but they fell apart. More to the point, these Akus just felt "right", and fit is everything!

I'm sure you could jog in them, they're about as light and flexy as boots get really.

Purchased from Outdoor Traders in Abingdon, highly recommended if you're in the area, a bit over-priced but that's the price of a knowledgable staff! Worth paying for imho.
04/01/2009 at 10:12
I'll be interested how you get on with the Aku Slopes. I had a pair of Icaros, which were brilliant until the membrane gave up after 18 months. If you want an Aku boot without a membrane then the NS 564s are worth a look: http://blogpackinglight.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/aku-ns-564-boot-review/ . I've worn them a lot and they are very comfortable and flexible. They are water resistant for about half an hour but you can use GoreTex booties or Sealskinz inside them for waterproofing. They are much more comfortable in warmer weather as they are more breathable.
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