Which stove and stuff?

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27/05/2012 at 08:12
Hi Om-ers,

I'll be doing a spot of campsite/occasional 1-2 day treks in the Peaks/Lakes.

I have all my kit ready except a stove, cooking/eating utensils and food

I have heard lots of good reports about Jetboil's, i.e British Army use etc etc. I will be travelling alone and fairly light.

Any suggs

Cheers
27/05/2012 at 08:16
"suggs"..... yup stay away from the jetboil its not suitable for the sort uses your going to be putting it to.

I'd recommend a Pocket Rocket.
Edited: 27/05/2012 at 08:41
27/05/2012 at 08:27
Bit of a sweeping statement from Bedders there re the Jetboil -- it does have its place if you just want to boil water for tea and eat lots of pork pies. But it is limited and a Pocket Rocket or similar would be better if you ever want to actually cook anything. Re cookwear it depends again on whether you want to be minimalist or actually cook stuff. If the former then a titanium or aluminium pot/mug, or for more complex stuff a light pot set. I use some old Trangia UL pots, but there are many similar around.
27/05/2012 at 08:39
>and eat lots of pork pies

Edited: 27/05/2012 at 08:41
27/05/2012 at 08:54

Gas tends to be the easiest option, but maybe not the best (subjective).

I use an Optimus Crux Lite very similar to Pocket Rocket. I wouldnt get a jetboil for your sort of trips (which is the same is what i do) but it would still do the job. 

27/05/2012 at 10:01
Guy Hurst wrote (see)
Bit of a sweeping statement from Bedders there re the Jetboil

Jet-furuncles do not deserve more than a sweeping statement
27/05/2012 at 10:06
First things first - what are you planning to do about food? Do your plans involve passing cafes/pubs that you will eat main meals at, or or you planning to be self sufficient?

Second, if cooking, what are you planning to eat? Do you just want to boil water for brews and dehydrated food? Do you want to heat pre-made traveller meals, or are you planning on cooking?

I'll dismiss petrol/multifuel as OTT.

You thus have a choice of gas, meths or wood - that's the approx order of convenience.

For gas the ones mentioned are good starters - I have a Crux myself. It does end up a little tall. Mainly boiling water it will be fine, but if you are planning to cook you may be better with a remote like the primus spider express. It ends up lower and potentially more stable.

I also love my white box for meths. Works really well. Will never be as quick as a gas stove getting to the boil. Needs a wider pot too - the crux can brew in a mug, the white box needs something wider. Will happily do water for a brew and then fry for a sausage and egg barm for breakfast on a fill. Down side is f you want to simmer something for a while, there is no control on most meths burners, and they tend not to have long burn times.

Wood - no need to carry fuel, but you need to be confident in your ability to find fuels, and then actually get the ting going. Will probably also give you nice black pans!
27/05/2012 at 10:13

Just to note about jetboil. The SolTi got a highly reccomended from backpackinglight (here) so its obviously a perfectly valid alternative at a decent weight.

(The latter aspect is far from universal with their stoves.).

Not that weeny gas things don't work very well too. (or sundry other things )

GOF
27/05/2012 at 10:28
Forget the Jetboil - yes, popular with squaddies, but they are just making brews and/or boil in the bag (and there are, IMHO, much more interesting solutions to those problems than Jetboils).

Wood - yes, and doesnt have to be expensive. a Hobo stove (or IKEA stove) is a stainless steel cutlery rack, a couple of steel tent pegs and a a pot at its simplest. Total cost.....eerrr...£3?

Gas - prefered option of many, me included. Go for a large burner head like this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120713427134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_666wt_1037

a windshield (make it yourself)

and a coleman/blacks pot set
GOF
27/05/2012 at 11:37
Hi,

I'd say gas if far easier; I've used Trangias and not been impressed...slow, bulky, can't see if the flame has gone out, hard to simmer etc...

I've got a Webtex Warrior stove:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Webtex-Warrior-Compact-Stove-Cooker-Ultra-Lightweight-/110859188809?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSupplies_ET&hash=item19cfb8fa49#ht_723wt_689

Apparently is one is pretty much the same as the MSR Pocket Rocket but much cheaper. Haven't had any problems so far.

I would be tempted to get a remote burner system, I'd probably just go for the Webtex one again mainly because it's only about £18 and so far I haven't had any problems with my current Webtex.

I use a couple of mess tins to cook in and eat it of, and carry a plastic mug for coffee

Ed
27/05/2012 at 11:49
MC, them there people @backpackinglight do strange things like cutting tooth brushes in half and lopping off unused strap length on backpacks to save weight.... chances are there idea of "cooking" is pouring boiling water on a Mountain House.

Anyone have any recipes for a Jetboil type stove that doesn't involve welding the bottom 1/2 inch of food to the pan?

Seriously though I pretty much alway take my Reactor on all trips but wouldn't ever take it on its own. Used to take it with a Pocket Rocket now take my (bette) Soto MRS.
27/05/2012 at 12:01

Um yes, its mostly interesting in the sense that one major complaint cf jetboils has been the weight.

Clearly specalised for boiling water so if you wish to cook 'proper' food the appeal would be rather limited! Dehydrated food of one form or another pretty mainstream mind, especially for longer trips.

27/05/2012 at 12:47
Cattytown wrote (see)
 For gas the ones mentioned are good starters - I have a Crux myself. It does end up a little tall. Mainly boiling water it will be fine, but if you are planning to cook you may be better with a remote like the primus spider express. It ends up lower and potentially more stable.
I think the Crux Lite is a bit shorter than the Crux ...not sure... but either way i had the same problem. I bought one of those Primus Canister footrests, it makes it really stable and fits all canister sizes - about 24g and £5.
27/05/2012 at 15:07
Plenty of food for thought (sorry)

Will start hunting the suggs down

Cheers

all
28/05/2012 at 07:13
I've settled for a Primus stove Gravity II EF with Piezo ignition (£50) as it seems a good weight/functionality compromise. I also purchased the Optimus Terra Solo cookset and a spork.

Is there anything else I need, other than food and water?
28/05/2012 at 09:03
Pot cosy material. And two lighters for when the piezo breaks.
28/05/2012 at 09:13
I'd go for some form of wind shield.
28/05/2012 at 09:15
would you buy one, or try and make a simple (cheap) one?
28/05/2012 at 09:17
pot cosy or windshield? In either case make is tempting.
28/05/2012 at 11:43
Thanks all

will start knitting a cosy and fashioning a wind shield
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