Winter Kit (Hardware) and Skills

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14/10/2001 at 00:14
As I'm looking at Norway for a gap year (Industrail placement) I need to sort out my winter skills, and am looking to know where I can get some training and what to look for when buying boots (B2 or B3?) and crampons etc
Si
15/10/2001 at 09:39
David, I'm also looking at a winter skills course. For info try: www.glenmorelodge.org.uk or www.pyb.co.uk or www.glencoe-mountain-sport.co.uk. From their sites the course content seems very similar, all-in prices vary a bit but not a great deal.

Hopefully someone will now submit a post recommending one!

Si
15/10/2001 at 11:46
I've done two Glenmore Lodge courses over the years. Excellent instruction, decent value, lots of cake, readily available access to lots of snow (based in Aviemore). They'll supply technical gear, including boots, and you'll have a much better idea of what to buy for yourself at the end of it. I'd happily recommend them to anyone.

Plas y Brenin are similarly good, but go for their Scottish-based course rather than the Welsh one. Snowdonian mountain conditions are less reliable than Scottish. March is usually a good month, Jan a bit early some years.

There are other, smaller outfits also offering good courses, but I've not used any of them. The advantage of the big two mentioned, is that you're dealing with a reliable, known quality and a spread of excellent, highly cometent staff.

There tend to be a few levels of course. The basic winter mountaincraft ones assume that you're not a climber, the winter mountaineering ones that you have a summer rock climbing background and can tie knots, place protection, set up a belay etc.

As far as gear goes, it depends a lot on what you're doing. For ice climbing you need specialist B3 boots, for more general mountaineering, a slightly more flexible boot can be more comfortable. For multi-day stuff I like plastics because they're warm and don't get water-logged and take ages to dry out like some leather boots - frozen boots, no thanks... But doing a course will put you in a much better position to judge for yourself.

Norway looks superb btw, guess you'll be learning to telemark then?

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15/10/2001 at 12:08
Yea hopefully I'll keep you posted!
18/10/2001 at 22:20
OOO I spent lots of time there!
its cold it gets dark and it snows a lot
get some ski-march boots and learn the wonders of XC skiing
Some of the most magical moments I ever had were out in the Vidda going through forests with about four inches of rime ice over everything. It looked like blown glass.
Get skiing particularly in winter out to the Fjellstue huts. Great stuff.
You really wont regret it!
20/10/2001 at 13:22
Unfortunately I got my hopes up too soon owing to current political climates etc (SET 11) the uni has advised me to stick to somewhere within th U.K however i still Intend to do a winter skills course as I am going to try a placement in Scotland or down here in Wales (Can anyone help? Scond year EPS Student looking for placement!)
So I think I might try and get out there during the winter though! may enven try it through one of the oil companies!
21/10/2001 at 10:39
Err are the Uni realy worried about terrorist action in Norway? It's not quite Beirut is it?! Late (ish) spring is a good time to go, we went to the Hardangervidden last year with the Telemark Ski Co and had a fantastic week. Food tasty and plentiful, huts excellent, company good and coaching superb. Bear in mind it's very, very hard to walk anywhere in winter as the snow is thigh deep plus. XC or Tele is the way forward, literally and metaphorically.
Err forgive my ignorance but what does EPS stand for?
21/10/2001 at 13:14
Well if your sure you want to know here we go ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION SCIENCE!!!
21/10/2001 at 21:39
David
Pause for breath
Do you know about my imminet departure for Antarctica to clean up the russki base there? It may interest you on a professional basis. I do for a living what you are training to do and its fun sometimes.
Dont take any notice of the Uni You are more likely to be anthraxed, bombed, shot at and run over here than Norway. Plus 3 commando brigade may well be ahem "elsewhere" this winter so not too many mad bootnecks all over the place. Go and have a wonderful time. You will be safer than a fiver in a scotsmans sporran (stand by for complaints)
Its odd really how people dont think its safe to leave the target area.
I am going to Antarctica you dont get much more out of the way than that!
22/10/2001 at 12:26
Okay well maybe I will reconsider then or try to stay over here and then get moved out there later on in my placement!
22/10/2001 at 12:47
Definitely go, David. As Clive says, Norway is much more peaceful than the UK. You won't regret it. And you'll be amazed at how environmentally aware the average Norwegian is. You'll learn a lot.
--Mjausson
22/10/2001 at 18:05
Hmm looks like 9/10 people on outdoors magic prefer Norwegian Anthrax to British!!
Well I think I might as well go then
ps Clive what's wrong with saying safer than a fiver in a Scotmans Sporan, as you really can't get much safer I should my family is Scotish!!!
22/10/2001 at 18:31
They are a relatively eco-aware bunch - just don't mention wales.
22/10/2001 at 20:11
Its just sometimes some peopel have no sense of humour
which makes them such big fat stationary targets I cant resist it
(all that sniper training Go for the fat lardy one that shouts a lot then if you get captured then the other side will have something to thank you for {of course he may be an officer})
22/10/2001 at 20:13
peopel?

22/10/2001 at 21:07
or for that matter whales (wales)
Lordy what's happened to our spelling? And Hardwarde? That sounds pretty norweigian already.
23/10/2001 at 08:14
norweigian?
23/10/2001 at 11:36
Clive I am sort of aware of what you are doing in Antartica but more info would be appreciated!
Thanks
David
23/10/2001 at 17:06
Fiver in a bl00dy Scotsmans sporran!

Am I the token Scot perusing this fascinating thread or has no one else noticed Clives remark!?
23/10/2001 at 17:11
Mmm, I just thought about what Clive said. I've been surfing the net in general, and this site in particular, for hours trying to save myself a fiver on a sleeping bag!!
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