Backpacking or Creature Comfort Camping?

Which do you prefer?

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31/05/2002 at 18:06
I prefer to keep things simple, so my vote is for freelance camping in the wild.

All my early years of camping was spent in fields with a source of water, a tent, food, a shovel (you know what for), and lengths of string and rope to manufacture anything I didn't have with me.

Compared to that, Alpine Burners and dried food is luxury.

But I love the whole-hog campsite thing as well! And pitching up near a pub! But the crowds of people at busy times I find a bit off-putting....
31/05/2002 at 18:37
I prefer to get away from the crowds and camp high, Mrs W is a bit of a townie though, cant even get her to go walking (unless it involves lots of shops)never mind backpacking, thats why we are off to fight for space on a campsite this weekend.
Anyway, talking of pubs I`m off out on the lash now
31/05/2002 at 19:02
Backpacking and preferably wild camping...
31/05/2002 at 20:47
definately wild camping
incidently, Jeannie, ref your shovel, I've just finished reading 'how to shit in the woods' which is very informative and a good laugh in places...worth a read if you venture into the wild.
31/05/2002 at 22:18
Wild camping gets my vote. Don't like busy campsites.
31/05/2002 at 22:20
i like backpacking and wild camping alot esp the alcohol rounf the fire/burner thing!!

but it is nice to get back to a site sometimes to after a hard day, dump your gear have a warm shower n head for the pub..and you have to carry less which adds to the enjoyment....

who cares aslong as your out of the nig smoke!
01/06/2002 at 01:23
Yup - that nig smoke's pretty bad eh? :-)

The satisfaction of prolonged backpacking with wild camps IMHO is a more lasting one, at least in comparison to the joy of finally having a shower, sitting on a toilet, and consuming beer and/or curry - which is great at the time, but the novelty soon wears off. (Especially if you try to do all the above at once). However week long trips in continuous rain can get a little depressing...given the chance I tend to break longer trips up with celebratory nights in B&B or hotel where possible - as it allows you to dry the tent out and have a good wash. Once did what must have been the slowest ever Paddy Buckley round with a tent and big boots, and the night in the Goat in Beddgelert was a good choice, as it allowed us to carry less food and smell more human as well...
01/06/2002 at 03:57
Backpacking and wild camping, nothing beats it.

Returning to civilisation is a bummer, though.
01/06/2002 at 12:16
My vote goes to a combination of both, serviced trekking. You get the remote locations, the break from civilisation, but someone/thing else lugs the crap and makes the dinner. Unlike Ben B I've mastered the art of washing in a tent :) so I don't miss a shower. And it gives you the opportunity to spend several weeks away from the worst aspects of civilisation, something that just wouldn't be practical if you had to carry all your own supplies.

Nothing wrong with cars and proper campsites though, especially in the UK. It means you can have decent, non-dried food and changes of clothes and an easy bail out if the weather turns really bad. So it allows you to concentrate on climbing, or whatever it is that you're there to do.

Having tried low-tech wild camping (Ray Mears style) it's not something I'm keen to repeat: it just takes all day to catch your food and gather your fuel. When I do camp out, I've no hesitation in taking the dried food and the ultralight gear - simplicity's one thing but hair-shirtism's quite another.
01/06/2002 at 21:01
Is this "hair-shirt" waterproof and breathable?
02/06/2002 at 00:41
Ahh, but surely there's nothing like a good hot shower - preferably one with so much of a hydrostatic head that you fear you may be squeezed down through the plughole - especially after a few days in the hills. Although will readily admit you are undoubtedly better smelling - and henceforth may be known as the Fragrant Joan ;-)
Embarassingly enough we have a couple of wee folding stools for use when car camping, and even (eek!) a tarp for sorting out a kitchen / diner; clearly the emphasis being on comfort rather than practicality when you don't have to lug all the gear round with you.
02/06/2002 at 11:27
I too have got all the creature comforts for when I'm carpacking with family, it's just that when I'm on my own I know no discomfort.
Roughing it, for me, just isn't rough. (Almost) at one with nature, for want of a better expression, is how it feels.
02/06/2002 at 12:29
A simpler life almost...just the necessities is what you get with backpacking/wildcamping.
02/06/2002 at 13:10
That's it, Alex.
02/06/2002 at 16:37
Both are great just as long as your'e out there enjoying it. Wild camping is fine but as all who have gone before agree, you can't beat a hot shower and proper bog. You can keep the swimming pool, club ,shop etc though.
02/06/2002 at 17:48
But that's just it, Rob, I DON'T miss a shower or toilet whilst backpacking for extended periods, they're just nice to have when I get back.

Unless that's what you meant, anyway.
:)
02/06/2002 at 20:11
When I get to the toilet in the car park at Ambleside (often the first one I've seen for a few days) it is with some relief...

...but campsites with good showers are tops for freshening up, it's just a different way of experiencing the same thing, I guess.

The best things I like about wild camping are:-

- the solitude, chance to be 'at one' with the mountain
- waking when it's light, eating when I'm hungry, sleeping when it's dark, instead of a life ruled by bells and precise timings at work
02/06/2002 at 23:35
Yesterday evening Bob and I sat on a hummock watching the sunset's reflections on a lakeland tarn. The weather was perfect, the sky beautiful.

We chatted to a fellow wild camper called Lesley (Hi if you read this site Lesley) who was circumnavigating the tarn clockwise as we went in the opposite direction. We took photographs of the beautiful sights before us and swigged wine from a platy. The sunset turned the rocks pink and the water greyish lilac with orange highlights.

We trotted back to the tent and studied the map until it got dark and then went to sleep.

Earlier two walkers had seen us pitch camp and said how envious they were of us staying up for the night in the mountains and that the site looked 'idyllic'.

They were correct. It WAS idyllic.
03/06/2002 at 04:00
Nice one Jeannie (and Bob).

I'll be doing the same at one of my favourite lakeland wild campsites soon.

Off out on my bike now, bye.
03/06/2002 at 13:10
Errrrrrrrrrrr where are you going biking at 4 in the morning, Tony?

I'm uploading a new 'face' from this weekend...when the techies get going, that is.....
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