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lentenrose
05/12/2011 at 19:44

e petition at government website to ban motorised vehicles in national parks ---sorry can t do links-----regards lr

Rocky
05/12/2011 at 20:03
That's going to lead to some mighty big walk ins, do locals have to carry their shopping home on their head? :/
Paddy Dillon
05/12/2011 at 20:09
Nothing wrong with a 'mighty big walk in'... the Cumbria Way to the Lake District... or the West Highland Way to climb Ben Nevis!
lentenrose
05/12/2011 at 20:34
correction----ban motorised vehicles--- OFF-ROADING---in national parks----regards lr
Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 21:03

So there is a petition to stop vehicles driving on the highway??? what a load of tosh.

Jog on, bud.

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
Edited: 05/12/2011 at 21:07
gix gixerson
05/12/2011 at 21:31

Funny thing I've never heard one person complaining thatr actually lived in these areas.

More meddling jobsworths.

It's nannying like this that was one of the reasons i'd had enough of England and moved.

Cheers

Mark

PapaLazarou
05/12/2011 at 21:34

How about an e-petition to give the police greater powers against irresponsible off-roading instead?  Or mountain-bikes on footpaths? Or PWCs on lakes where they shouldn't be? Or bikes/cars with illegally loud exhausts?

A bit more positive policing, and less discrimanatory perhaps?

Edited: 05/12/2011 at 21:37
Martin1512
05/12/2011 at 21:36
What off road driving? Motorised vehicles are already banned from being driven anywhere other than on public highways, unless with the landowners permission. The only place I see them being driven are on BOAT's.  BOAT's are public highways open to all traffic, and have the same legal status as any other type of road. I am both a keen walker and a 4x4 driver, so I can sympathise with both points of view. I have read posts on both walking and 4x4 forums, and I am staggered at the amount of bigotry and ignorance shown by poth sides of this argument. Yes, we know 4x4's do cause damage, but then there are many paths in the uk not open to vehicles that are in an absolutely horrendous state. We also know that there are some 4x4 drivers that do not stick to the legal paths and damage surrounding areas, but there are also organisations like GLASS that do a huge ammount to keep the UK's remaining byways passable to ALL traffic, be it motorised, on horse, or on foot. Currently only 4% of the UK's paths and tracks have vehicular access rights. Because of poor maintenance making many of these roads impassable to any type of vehicle, the actual number of paths used by motorised vehicles is closer to 3% Surely, it is not unreasonable to be asked to share just 3% of the country's paths tracks and lanes with motorised vehicles when those of us who enjoy walking have access to all of them.
Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 21:37
PapaLazarou wrote (see)

How about an e-petition to give the police greater powers against irresponsible off-roading instead?  Or mountain-bikes on footpaths? Or PWCs on lakes where they shouldn't be? Or chavs on bikes/in cars with illegally loud exhausts?

A bit more positive policing, and less discrimanatory perhaps?

Absolutely!

Litter louts, dogging sites, poachers... the list is endles, all are illegal and do far more harm.

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
Lucky Jim
05/12/2011 at 21:39

Signed!

link here thanks Lentenrose.

'Responsible department: Department for Transport - To stop all Off-Roading by motorised vehicles in all of our National Parks to prevent environmental damage, disturbance of wildlife, and destruction of ancient Green Lanes in our countryside, which is an escape from the noise and bustle of our towns and cities. We have little enough unspoilt country left without allowing wanton damage to our beautiful countryside.'

Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 21:57
<yawns with boredom at the broad sweeping generalisations>

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
That bastard Skip
05/12/2011 at 21:58

" ... stop all Off-Roading by motorised vehicles in all of our National Parks ..."

Yeah? All motorised vehicles in all areas of NPs?

What about farmers and shepherds? What about wardens and maintenance teams? Gamekeepers? Emergency service vehicles? Electricity and water supply repair vehicles? That's before you even start thinking about a definition (a legally watertight one) of "off-roading".

I'm generally hostile to 4x4 and motorbikes - the fewer I see when I'm away from tarmac the better I like it. But I certainly wouldn't sign a petition as knee-jerk, nimbyist, illiberal, non-consensual, ill-thought-out and emotively worded as that.

Bah. Humbug.

That bastard Skip
05/12/2011 at 21:59
Fisherman's Friend wrote (see)
<yawns with boredom at the broad sweeping generalisations>

Wot FF said

Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 22:02

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
Mark Taylor 8
05/12/2011 at 22:06

I read about this campaign in the Winter edition of the Rambler's Association of walk magazine.  Hmm!

I then turned to page 37 of the same magazine which tells the story of a walking party in Dartmoor National Park and a member of the party becomes ill.  After overcoming the Ambulance Services difficulties in accepting an OS Grid reference, an ambulance was despatched, only to find the casualty was out of reach of the ambulance. .

 But lo' behold, "but fortunately a kind and capable man with a well-equipped 4x4 stepped in to drive them up the rough track to meet us. (Presumably a BOAT or UCR[my words]) He later evacuated Mary, together with her husband and the ambulance crew,...."

Funny isn't it, how the spawn of Satan can take on many guises - a 4x4 driver drove over rough track in a National Park and is praised by the walkers. Oh well,, if the RA and the petitioners get their way, it won't happen again, and poor old Mary would still be stuck at Norsworthy Bridge.

Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 22:12

Errrrr MT8 - as much as I support what you are saying....... Norsworthy Bridge is on a road .... A regular one.

And

There is no off road access on Dartmoor Commons - already banned with the Dartmoor Commons Act  However - there never were any green lanes  across the moor anyway So no loss there

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 22:19
Actually, this fred has made me fink that i is better off movin' to the Peaks

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 22:32

Second thoughts.... just look at the erosion caused by this lot:


“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
Mal Mawr
05/12/2011 at 22:33
They should definitely ban pogo stick off roading and the wearing of stiletto heels in national parks.
Doggo Defile
05/12/2011 at 22:34
And widdling behind bushes

“Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.”
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