Britain's best scramble?

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16/04/2002 at 12:10
Jeez, who sharpened Crib Goch since last time? Fantastic day out, but 'The Best'? Leaving aside the Cuillin Ridge - the Brazil of scrambling footie - I have to admit a soft spot for big Scottish ridges and An Teallach would probably get my vote, but what do you reckon?

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

16/04/2002 at 12:15
Erm. well inmy limited experiance its either Sharp edge, Jakes jake or Tryfan
16/04/2002 at 12:16
That should be Jakes Rake btw, not a new route or something
16/04/2002 at 12:34
Tryfan gets my vote for sheer variety. With many of the other classics mentioned, jakes rake and Crib goch, its just one route (2 if you count falling off) whereas with Tryfan you have to pick your line according to conditions.

In winter it really comes into its own, particularly when the gullies on the east face get iced up.

Also with Tryfan there is the fun of trying to get down in one piece. (Guess where I'm going on Sunday)




16/04/2002 at 12:49
I have utterly no idea, having only about a dozen scrambles to my name, most of those repeats of Tryfan and Crib Goch.

Re Tryfan - it's good and the variety can be interesting, but it can also make route finding a pain in the arse.

I think Bristly Rdge is the best out of all I've done. Crib Llem spur is a biggie I've yet to do though and we never got round to doing Jake's Rake when we were there (grrr little bit of conflict in our group that day) so I'm sure I'll find better
16/04/2002 at 12:55
'Dont let go...'

Love it Jon!

Sounds straight out Vertical Limit. Cheesetastic
16/04/2002 at 12:59
Hold on!

'Don't Look Down'!

That was Vertical Limit's tag line!

Got it on dvd for free. Cool!
16/04/2002 at 13:01
I vote Tryfan too. I have lost count of the times I have been up it!

The snowdon horseshoe is next in line followed closely by the anaceach ridge (sp?) you know the one following the road into glencoe and finishing at the clachaig (sp again) inn
16/04/2002 at 13:12
I was in Wasdale a few weeks ago. I can't rememember the name of the route I did (it went passed Sphinx rock) a really good quality scramble, exposed enough to feel a little scary, but loads of really nice big blocky holds. But incredible views of Scafell and wasdale.

My only experience of Glencoe was in the throws of winter and the conditions I climbed stoire cob nan lochan (sp?) in and the ice axe arrest I quickly taught myself stretched the definition of 'scramble' a little. Can't wait to get there in the summer though and do the full ridge.
16/04/2002 at 14:02
Easy for me...Tryfans North Face and Bristly Ridge!

Why? Well...Tryfans more fun! Plain and simple.

Crib Goch et al maybe scarier, but thats not a good reason for being the best scramble. Tryfan is more of a challenge...more routes, more problems to solve, more interesting. At the end of the day, I'd rather have been challenged by the problems that a route throws at me than challenged to actually undertake the route.
16/04/2002 at 15:45
Well said Alex.
16/04/2002 at 17:27
It's a tough question. So much depends on the weather, the company and which side of bed you got out of that it's easier to talk about favourite days out than be objective about great routes.

For me, it was an unplanned traverse of Clach Glas and Bla Bheinn a couple of years ago. We'd gone out in the morning intending to wander round the bogs looking for Bronze Age settlements, but the weather was so clear and perfect that we decided on the spur of the moment to attempt the traverse instead, ropeless and guidebookless. We didn't encounter another person, or a drop of rain, all day, and had fantastic views for miles around. Had a couple of hairy moments when we took the wrong line on the difficult bits, but it was so much more fun than following some route from a book.

I find I'm wary of repeating the route, though. So often these things don't measure up to the expectations that memory engenders. There's always the whiff of uncompleted business when your day is spoilt by bad weather, crowds, whatever, and it becomes tempting to return for a second go. But when you have a perfect day the first time round a repeat tends to turn out a disappointment.
16/04/2002 at 17:30
That is soooooo true, Joan.

But also Tryfan was my first "real" scramble...and they say that "first love is the strongest" don't they.
16/04/2002 at 18:03
It's certainly the one that all the others have to measure up to. It's one of my favourite areas too. Practically a roadside crag from a lot of approaches, which is always welcome. It's only the crowds (and the polishing) which let it down.
16/04/2002 at 18:15
It is such a weird combination of time, place, company and the way your brain is at the time. Tryfan North Ridge was the first mountain thing I ever did when I was about 13 and it's always nice to go back and play. It's become sort of a barometer for me. I can remember how enormous it seemed then and every time I go back it feels a little smaller, but still a great route. I like the exposure on stiff like An Teallach and Crib Goch though. The Welsh thing sort of sneaked up on me yesterday though, bloody crocodile teeth. It's not technically difficult at all, but you do have to remember not to fall off. Definitely better on a weekend without the crowds.

Oh, I've said it before, but the Clogwyn y Person arete rocks. A bit more serious, but a great day.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

16/04/2002 at 19:40
Well I must say that I found the Striding Edge - despite having THE coolest name ever - a bit of a disappointment as apart from the final step it was soooo easy and toooooooooo crowded for words - and that was on an extremely cold and windy day, goodness alone knows what it's like in summer....

Tryfan N R was fun for a sustained and long scramble, but I preferred Tryfan Bach which, depending which guide book you read, is either a scramble (grade 3) or a Diff rock climb. Fantastic. 240 feet of heaven.

Most of the other scrambles we have done have been smaller, shorter or easier and not particularly memorable - or maybe forgotten as the ones I mentioned above have been our most recent...

Incidentally, found a nice short one on Saturday, an alternative way up to Stye Head Tarn near Great Gable, enough exposure to make it *interesting*, especially as I was carrying 18Kg and Sir was carrying 20Kg in a big sac....overbalancing was on our minds and kept us keen!
16/04/2002 at 21:19
What about Anoch Egach in Glencoe? That's a pretty spectacular ridge. Got a pub at the end too!!! :-)
16/04/2002 at 22:20
Not done that yet. sometime, sometime. when exams are over...grrrrrr
16/04/2002 at 22:34
Clach Glas & Blaven, stunning! and that my friends is all I have to say on this fine route!
16/04/2002 at 23:27
Hmmm. Well, North Wales does have the advantage of an excellent guidebook and lots of easily accessible routes; and so (seeing as we OM members are as far as I can see nearly all English) will rank disproportionately highly. I don't really agree with Tryfan N ridge being the best, it has to be the easiest to get to, but until you get up level with the start of the Heather Terrace it's a chossy mess. Much nicer start to head round below the Milestone Buttress, up the damp scrotty gully with the huge hold, over milestone continuation which I've never seen anyone on, and then up the north ridge from there. Much less staggering around on eroded scree and boulders, as long as you can get over the granny stopper at the bottom of the gully.
Otherwise in Snowdonia how about up Clogwyn y Parson, over Crib Goch and down the N ridge back over to the Cromlech boulders, that's agreat afternoon. Or up the Cneifion arete, central gully on tryfan takes you through some grand scenery without ever being difficult. Some of these are pretty stiff as scrambles but readily protected and the technical bits are short. Similarly the Cwfry arete on Cader. Ghyll scrambling fits into a separate category, though I can only think of 2 routes like this in Snowdonia - Bryant's gully, and the one down by Conglog - then a weekend in Langdale can really spice up the scrambling fun. (I even took my mum, who won't let her age be disclosed, up Stickle Gill in high water, and she still tells everyone about it...).
Up in the land of proper hills ;-) then Aonach Eagach is pretty straightforward after the chancellor is despatched but a great day for the views, if you get them. An teallach is still a firm favourite, and if youy take a rope for the ab off the third pinnacle then Sgurr nan Gillean's Pinnacle Ridge is a fantstic mountain day, even in the pouring rain, but serious - loose rock in places, plus the interesting ab. But as Joan Collins has already said memories of routes are always affected by the people we do them with, the weather, the food, the midges etc. So one of my best memories has to be on Curved ridge on the Buchaille. After zipping up the ridge in light rain we sat on Crowberry Tower in a bothy bag to have lunch of avocado, mayo and spring onion rolls with pepper washed down with elderflower cordial. However the ghost of Dougal Hston had his revenge for such a bunch of mincing southern pansies... as we got out of the bag and I shook it to put it away, a huge bowl of water that had accumulated on the roof flew in the air and landed precisely on my head. "Man drowns in freak crowberry tower accident" would have made an interesting front cover for the P&J.

Sorry about that, when I get started I do go on a bit eh.
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