Gorse Fires

Started already.....

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29/03/2012 at 19:00

 I see the feckin arsonists are out early this year!!!!

 There's been 3 fires so far in Mournes area, some in Wales, not heard of any in Scotland or England.

 It's been lucky that know one has lost their life so far, but someone will sometime.

 If it's the arsonist, that wouldn't bother me, serve them right! Some innocent walker, camper, farmer, etc. would, never mind the flora and fauna destroyed.

 I can only hope that no-one gets hurt, some scumbag/s get caught and jailed. It might put some others off doing the same.

29/03/2012 at 19:12
There was a Gorse fire in the woods near us. The base of the plant literally exploded as fire crews were making their way to put it out.!
29/03/2012 at 20:30
There have been a few heather fires in Wester Ross, just lit and left to burn and it goes out of control.
01/04/2012 at 21:23

Been more in N Ireland, had to cancel a charity event because some fecker set Slieve Donard, (highist mtn.), on fire.

 Took 40 firepersons 13hrs to get under control.

 I'm not a violent person, but it's get to the stage that if I found some bas**rd setting a fire, I'd throw them into it........

01/04/2012 at 21:27
We've had three within the Sheffield boundary already, god forbid when the chavs feel it's warm enough for them to start "wild camping" out by Fox House etc.

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01/04/2012 at 21:51

 I hope it's not like last year in N. Ireland.

 There where 9 fires started on one stretch of road in 1 hour, tthe car used was eventually found to be stolen and burnt out, so perps. couldn't be traced.

 There where 21 fires set in Mournes and in whole of Province, 39.

 That's the one's started by scumbags, a few others where started by accident.

 Total of 65. It now seems the scum are burning the bits they "missed" last year.

15/04/2012 at 20:38
Whilst arson itself is obviously very bad news, let's not forget that some is burnt for conservation management purposes, under controlled conditions. 
15/04/2012 at 21:19
I once watched an enormous 'controlled' blaze on Exmoor. A farmer had been pestering the National Trust and National Park for ages to get permission to burn gorse and bracken. He was partly concerned that it was encroaching on good grazing, and also because it was harbouring increasing numbers of ticks. In the end, he got permission, and my route for the day had great views of the inferno, though thick clouds of smoke made it difficult to get good pictures of the scenery. Towards the end of my walk I talked to the farmer, and he pointed out where the National Trust and National Park observers were standing. He mentioned it was a 'controlled' blaze, and when I joked that it seemed a little bit out of control earlier, he laughed and said... "Yeah, that's what those folk said too, but I told them it was all fine. To be honest, though, I really thought it was out of control at one point!"
15/04/2012 at 22:03

Interesting - wonder if it followed a burning plan - or was allowed to get out of control?  I'm not sure how effectively it controls ticks.  If done in winter, they're still down in the underlying ground, so the fire would probably not bother them unduly.  But if done towards the end of the burning season (which for England's uplands ends 15 April, end of March in Wales), it may catch ticks out in the sun?  But if carried out in a controlled manner, with relatively small areas burnt, ticks will still be present on the un-burnt bits.

FWIW, a colleague watched a lizard pop up very soon (minutes?) after the fire had passed over.  The aim is to burn with the wind, so the fire passes over very quickly, a very 'light' burn.

GOF
15/04/2012 at 22:46

Aye, the point of the burn is to clear the old "sick" herbage and to encourage new green and succulent stuff to grow - which animals will eat.

So, if the fire moves to slowly it kills everything rather than a quick flash over

GOF
15/04/2012 at 23:24
Yes, and to favour smaller plants which would struggle against coarser, rank vegetation.  Devils-bit scabious, for instance, is the only food source of the marsh fritillary and may not thrive if an area is undergrazed.  Also used as a stock management tool - if you have areas that are undergrazed, perhaps remote, burning a patch of it - or the other side of it - will encourage stock to that area, perhaps also reducing pressure on overgrazed areas.
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