Paramo Question

Phil S

03/04/2006 at 21:25

Hi All,

I'm a Paramo geek but can't seem to find the answer to one simple question (I have searched!)

Drumroll...

Do you actually need to re-proof Paramo???

I haven't bothered and I was up in the Carnedds this Sunday in my battered Viento and Cascadas. We had serious driving rain all day and the outer layer wetted out (e.g. totally saturated with no beading at all which is what I assumed the Nikwax treatment was meant provide.)

However, at the end of this I was still bone dry. So, what does the proofing agent actually provide other than than some initial, short term, surface protection? Hope I'm not being thick, just genuinely curious!

Edited: 03/04/2006 at 21:28

Jon Doran

03/04/2006 at 21:30

Simple answer: yes.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

Edited: 03/04/2006 at 21:32

julie

03/04/2006 at 21:32

yes
definitely

Jon Doran

03/04/2006 at 21:33

Because...

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Jon Doran

03/04/2006 at 21:35

... when you proof the garment it doesn't just proof the outer shell, it also proofs the directional lining, zip bits etc, which helps it to transport water outwards. The surface DWR wears off faster because of abrasion, but the proofing within the garment will still be working.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

Lloyd Bower

03/04/2006 at 21:36

Yeah, defintely needs reproofing. Mine certainly does that's for sure, I got absolutely drenched in last hour and half of a walk in the Peak yesterday near Crowden.

Eventually the rain went right through my Paramo Alta and I was totally wet inside by the end, it would have been particularly unpleasant if it was near the beginning or middle of the walk that's for sure. I hung it to dry at home when I got back yesterday evening and it was still wet on the inside this morning.

Dave O aka Jungle Dave ;)

03/04/2006 at 21:37

I think Paramo recommend about once a year or more if you use it a lot, have a look at the customer service/after care section of their website

Phil S

03/04/2006 at 21:39

Suspected that the proofing might apply to the innards too. Mega impressed with the speed of the Paramaniacs reply though!

That said, shouldn't the DWR coating reduce the efficiency of the pump liner? Probably opening a right can of (technical) worms with this question...

Edited: 03/04/2006 at 21:50

Dave O aka Jungle Dave ;)

03/04/2006 at 21:42

I think again not totally sure as I haven't done it yet but you reproof with TX Direct wash in which does both sides of the garment

<Proud owner of 1 Aspira Jacket, and cascada trews>

Jon Doran

03/04/2006 at 21:52

It reproofs all three sides of the garment: inner side, the outside and the bit in between which is technically referred to as 'the inside' to distinguish it from the inner side ;-)

IGMC...

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

Phil S

03/04/2006 at 21:58

Jon, what does IGMC mean? :-)

Edited: 03/04/2006 at 21:58

Ninja Marmot

03/04/2006 at 22:01

I'll get my coat

Phil S

03/04/2006 at 22:04

Ah....

Jon Doran

03/04/2006 at 22:06

I'll get my camel... :-)

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

Ninja Marmot

03/04/2006 at 22:14

Ill get my camel and raise you a llama

Phil S

03/04/2006 at 22:15

Match that with an Alpaca on top

Ninja Marmot

03/04/2006 at 22:17

Darn - I can't beat an Alpaca.

Phil S

03/04/2006 at 22:21

There's a farm near me which breeds Alpacas. I want to adopt one!

Matt C

03/04/2006 at 22:24

And I thought the plain old sheep was an OM'ers woolly animal of choice!!! ;)

Edited: 03/04/2006 at 22:24

Metric Kate

03/04/2006 at 22:33

so... were you paramaniacs always like this or is it a side-effect of wearing it? kinda makes me hesitant about trying it!!!

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