TRAIL MAGAZINE

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18/05/2010 at 23:55

I've never posted anything on here before, so for what its worth...

I have been buying both TGO and Trail for over a year, and occasionally buy Country Walking (blush). When I first started reading the the first two I quickly picked up lots of new ideas and knowledge about stuff such as navigation and gear.

At first I thought Trail was amazing and would read- and re-read obsessively. It was the one with the annual Gear Review thingy in. As an introduction to someone wishing to get out camping or invest money in better kit its great.

TGO seemed VERY strange - crampons for use on your ballet shoes, Eddie Mechan trimming his garden refuge sacks inorder to make then light enough for backpacking at sub-zero temperatures, etc.  I bought it along with Trail, but it all seemed a bit out of my comfort zone and a little obscure.

My excitement with Trail soon started to fade. Why does the gear review not mention such and such which is very good? Because its not new? Because its unthinkable that you can compare the performance of an Alpkit down bag with one of the ME or Rab ones retailing at £100+ more? At this point I started to notice that TGO had the nerve to do just that! Frequently TGO include in their reviews reference to things being over priced. They seem to review a wider range of manufacturers, and some less prominant ones.

The more I read of TGO, the more I appreciate its eccentricity and independence. Its provocative, and the literary quality of writibng from Chris Townsend and Jim Perrin keeps me engaged. Sometimes I still get the feeling that I am reading the outdoor lover's version of some religious/political faction rag. The Ramblers is becoming London centric, urban life style organization...Wind farms defacing our precious open spaces...do we really need a supermarket on Ben Nevis? (I exagerate). But TGO is willing to rock the boat or print an article I might have to think about or take a position on. Plus you gotta love any mag that offers you a decent bottle of malt if you subscribe.

But from the very first issue of Country Walking I thought "what is this lifestyle section from  the Daily Mail doing inside this magazine". After spending the 10 minutes or so it takes to extract any interesting nuggets from the mag I felt annoyed at the preachy "walking for health" tone, and the gear reviews are just rissable. To my embarrasment, even after buying half a dozen copies I still find myself (after having the sense to ignore it for a few weeks on the shelf of the newsagents) buying it again. I have found myself wondering if the gear tester has actually come face to face with the item they are supposed to be testing - or have they just re-hashed a review from their sister title Trail.  In a recentish issue I think they even included the paramo torres insulation trousers in a waterproof trouser review..or something silly like that. Basically, the tone of the magazine is "how to plan your fitness regime for that trek around the local park, wearing expensive gear that probably isn't all that necessary". "You like a few pints or a bottle of wine? Its not very good for you you know. It can leave you dehydrated." Blah Blah Blah. Imagine Country Walking offering a bottle of Talisker to new subscribers! lol. These joyless buggers are more likely to offer you a bottle of multi-vitamins, or a laminated chart of healthy sandwich fillings for the hill.

Well I'm starting to rant. In short, TGO seems independent, often challenging, mostly interesting. I just hope it can keep finding strange and obscure things to write about.

19/05/2010 at 00:23
lol @ your reviews Lynton - and welcome to OM
19/05/2010 at 08:31
lol @ Lynton
19/05/2010 at 08:40

welcome lynton

and lol too

19/05/2010 at 09:45
Aye, that's a grand entrance, Lynton... welcome to OM
19/05/2010 at 11:53
twiglegs wrote (see)

i don't buy any of the magazines, i take advice from those that do it day in day out, well weekends anyway, the members who post here and on lfto.

i remember the last issue of trail i bought, something like 50 waterproofs on trial, how the feck can the team truly review them. ?

I'll take my advice from those that have done it, been  there and have the badge to prove it, the forum members, best kit reviewers bar none.

Mags, i've shit em.

Thanks for a well balanced and thougtful critique, Twiggy. I'm glad to see your contribution to this discussion is up to your usual high standard.
19/05/2010 at 11:55

Welcome, Lynton. Interesting and amusing post.

Mal.

19/05/2010 at 12:31

Well Trail obviously can't destruction test everything they review. Doesn't mean they couldn't offer a half decent 'state of the market' style summary. You could of course argue that they rather fail to do that by not being organised enough about it.

Ultimately the magazines do have something of a intrisic problem in that the hills don't change

19/05/2010 at 13:04
Martin Carpenter wrote (see)

Ultimately the magazines do have something of a intrisic problem in that the hills don't change


A problem shared by many other leisure magazines.

I'm always amazed to see about 3 mags on the shelf devoted to running.  For a sport whose mechanics are as natural as breathing and which requires absolutely no specialised equipment or clothing, how on earth do they manage to fill them each month?  There must be a limit to how many shoe reviews you can do...

19/05/2010 at 14:06

Ah, who needs a magazine when you've got this site and another I won't mention. Actually had to stifle laughter while reading this at work (especially the mention of Country Walking).

Oddly enough my colleagues and I were discussing asparagus and its effects on wee the other day and thought that a beetroot / asparagus combo the best for producing interesting wee. Is there any other food stuff that could be added to that to increase the Wow factor? Sweetcorn, of course, only seems to affect the other bodily waste elimination process.

20/05/2010 at 22:00
Beware Stiles
21/05/2010 at 11:55

How do you define 'stylish', is that an improvised stile?

Edited: 21/05/2010 at 11:56
21/05/2010 at 12:04
Nick the Mod wrote (see)
Beware Stiles

Nobby Stiles
21/05/2010 at 13:41
If you don't like the mags then don't buy them. simple really. Thousands of people obviously do like them or they wouldn't sell. Each mag has its own target audience and they buy them and enjoy them and get something out of them or they wouldn't keep on buying them. Don't see any harm in having such a variety of mags all for different audiences myself?
21/05/2010 at 21:04

I buy Trial, I don't know why but it is now a habit. I find some items/articles informing others plain annoying and their reviews subjective.

I've been annoyed to high heaven with their routes, bought their top rated gear to find that it was carp for me.

To be quite honest when the mag lands on my door mat I pick it up, flick through it, look at the reviews, readers letter and routes and file it away!

22/05/2010 at 01:50
IMHO Trail is aimed more at novices and after a while it's interest will wane. Also given there aren't that many places to walk in the UK any mag will tend to repeat itself, more so Trail with less emphasis on foreign parts.

TGO has always been a little more independant but also IMHO is far from perfect it's very Scottish and some of it's articles can be heavy going. For a leisure magazine it can make hard work of "fun". Trail may push the "Hardest", "Most Extreme" but in a headless, youthful exuberance, a bit like Bear Grhylls on TV. TGO's glass half empty approach can be seen in the grimmaces of the Staffers in the pics, cheer up! Jim Perrin, sorry, i didn't fail English but he completely fails to engage me. And another thing at least if Perrin & Womble worked for Bauer they'd get some decent kit to wear. Womble is woefully underdressed in his old school blazer and jeans. You've got to love Eddie Meechan though, he should write a book.

BTW I have never subscribed to either, buy Trail about once every 18 months(have asked my wife to get this month's as i want to look at the running magazine free with it) and TGO about 4 times a year.

Bring back High, that's what I say!

22/05/2010 at 18:41
I bought the current issue for the same reason as Wurz (seemed a bargain), and have spent far more time reading the free running mag.
22/05/2010 at 20:47

Farmer Giles.

Dukes (of Argyle)


 

23/05/2010 at 16:58

I am afraid TGO seems to spend more time with its collective head up arse/navel gazing than ever before - step forward Mr Perrin who I am sure means well

Andrew

plus a letter this month from a lady who complains that the mag is too tuffty!

23/05/2010 at 17:52
mynthdd wrote (see)

I am afraid TGO seems to spend more time with its collective head up arse/navel gazing than ever before - step forward Mr Perrin who I am sure means well

Andrew

plus a letter this month from a lady who complains that the mag is too tuffty!

That's quite a trick for Mr Perrin to perform. He is an excellent writer and he never mixes his metaphors, writing as he does for the discerning reader.
Edited: 23/05/2010 at 18:25
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