You Know You're Getting Old When...

decrepitude hits home

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05/12/2001 at 20:03
OK, here goes...

On Saturday last week I failed an eye test and need glasses for reading. On Tuesday, the Dentist told me that I was "losing bone" around my back teeth. These are obvously the signs of old age and decrepitude sneaking in and getting me!

Has anyone else got similar signs of advancing years? If so what else can I look forward too?
05/12/2001 at 22:21
So far it's mostly an impressive array of aches and pains.

The thing is that everything is cumulative. You get one significant scar when you're eight and it's the pride of your life. But when you're approaching fourty they've added up over err, 40 years and you're looking at a bewildering amount of scar tissue. Of course the fact that things don't heal nearly as fast as they used to adds to it.

And it's not just on the outside. Every time you pull a muscle, that muscle is then going to be more sensitive to being pulled next time around. Of course the chance of _not_ having pulled more or less every muscle in your body just keeps getting closer to 0. The chance of not having pulled a muscle involved in your favourite activity, well, you do the math. It gets to the point where a crick in the neck entails a weeklong hospital stay. Well almost.

Want to see my weeping shingles scars? They're on top of my chronic shin splints which I got in my early twenties so I ask you not to touch them. Oh, sorry, this isn't the gross-out thread, is it?
--Mjausson
05/12/2001 at 22:44
can get that way though Mjausson!

I can no longer play football as the doctor said that as my ACL (left knee ligament) keeps buggering up. I first did it when I was 20...and then when I was 28 then 30...the time between each sprain is getting shorter and each time the sprain is getting worse.

Apparently the ligament stretches with each injury, and thus becomes more susceptable to further injury...

In the words of the doctor two years ago (when I last sprained it)...if you want to carry on walking in 10 years STOP playing football today!

Ho-hum!
06/12/2001 at 00:44
Ok just depress me then.
06/12/2001 at 08:10
Ho hum.
Right knee - displaced cartilage, incomplete fracture of patella, torn/stretched cruciate ligament, torn medial collateral ligament, torn cartilage (subsequently removed nearly 3 years ago) (the cartilage, not the knee, silly).
And that's just the one knee! Needless to say, I never ski without a meaty knee brace.
I have many large and interesting scars.
If you don't have lots of aches and pains and arthritis everywhere, then you haven't done anything! I would rather have the troubles than have had a life of sitting on the sofa knitting and watching telly.
06/12/2001 at 08:41
Many apologies, I forgot to mention the dislocation of the same knee in 1980.
It's my lucky knee.
06/12/2001 at 09:52
God this is pessimistic - in response I throw at you the white-haired guy in his 60s who is still soloing E2 routes in my local quarry and moves like a ballet dancer, Rannulph 'across the icey things' Fiennes, who is still capable of whupping the butt off people 30 years younger than him in adventure races, John North of Karrimor, who is still as hard as nails, Chirs Bonington, still climbing hard in his 60s etc, etc, etc.

A few hundred years ago, most of us would have been dead before we reached our 40s, so we're quite lucky really...

Anyway, more practically, the one thing I've found makes a huge difference is taking the time to stretch properly after any sort of outing and to allow proper recovery time between hard sessions. The stretching makes a massive difference to muscle soreness and stiffness the day after. Definitely worth the time.

Also, more optiomistically, mountaineers tend to peak in their late 30s and 40s when natural stamina's supplemented by better judgement and ability born of experience.

So stop making excuses :-)

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

06/12/2001 at 09:52
I've got a scar down my back where I had a disc removed.
I itches when its going to rain. Yes it really does.
cheaper than a barometer but the years leading up to it were a bit painful
06/12/2001 at 10:22
Looking on the bright side, I saw something on TV last night about HRT for men. Apparently it can help prevent mood swings, osteoporosis and so on. Could be just what you're looking for Alex.

Trouble no one about their religion;

respect others in their view and demand that they respect yours.

~Chief Tecumseh~

06/12/2001 at 10:28
I lost my last milk tooth last week.
06/12/2001 at 10:30
John, I throw at you Chris Bonnington. Now he's old beyond count of years, but does he go down quietly?
06/12/2001 at 10:33
I'm all excited now, waiting for my 'peak'. How will I know when it's arrived?
I would also add to Jon's excellent advice about stretching the need to undertake regular exercise until you're puffing as you approach your peak years. When I was younger I could leap into any sort of activity at any time without problems. I now find that to maintain my fitness and suppleness (injury-induced arthritis permitting) I need to keep at it.
06/12/2001 at 10:42
Well, Jon, things do go downhill as we get older. But if you can look it in the eye you can figure out strategies so that you can still do the things that really matter. Part of that is figuring out what really matters and what is stuff that you thought was cool when you were in your twenties but that aren't really worth the effort compared to other things.

It's great that a guy in his sixties is keeping active. I intend to do the same. But I've also got limitations. Ignoring them may in the end cost me the ability to do the things that matter. So I pay attention. Keeping on top of injuries so that they don't turn into chronic ones is part of that. Stretching is good, as you say. So is keeping warm.

Yours in decrepitude,
--Mjausson
06/12/2001 at 10:53
Just come back from the dentist (yes I've still got my own teeth) if anyone has the secret of turning lead into gold please tell me!

It's the lengthy recovery time that's depressing. I've had the odd injury in my time, but things now take much longer to heal. I fell off my mtb back in July and I'm still having problems with my shoulder injury.

Have said that, there aint no way I'm going to stop doing anything, just love it too much.
Keep on :-)
06/12/2001 at 12:02
Barry Sheene moved to Australia to stop his metal-reinforced limbs from aching in the cool dampness of the British climate - not a bad idea I reckon...

Definitely agree about recovery times, that's the one thing that really hits you as you pass 30, but I always take inspiration from the knowledge that if someone like Steve Redgrave can still win Olympic gold medals in his late 30s, just being 'fit' is feasible for anyone. It may take a little more effort and commitment and self discipline than when you're younger.

Andrew, I already mentioned Bonington, so I'm throwing him back in your general direction. So much of people decaying into premature uselessness is down to society's preconceptions about what's the norm rather than what's actually possible. The good news is that things are changing.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

06/12/2001 at 12:32
I brought up my standing application to move to the San Francisco office with our HR person the day before yesterday...
--Mjausson (the crick is improving)
06/12/2001 at 18:08
Hmm well you lot really do inspire us young un's, well you on a kind of related subject you know you really done some dammage when after dislocating your shoulder for about the 5th time, when the Doc. Tells you that
1) You're not allowed to play "contact" sports for 6 months
2) youre not allowed to attempt climbing absailing etc, only just managed to prevent the Doc banning you from weekend ex's with school ccf
3) The Doc then writes your refferal letter to the orthopod there and then and gives you a prescription for a large quantity of NSAI's (Ibuprofen etc)
4)when you get to the hospital and the consultant tells you that are no longer allowed to carry a pack and that your planned trip to finland with the school is off!
5)when the orthopod puts you down for an "exploratory" op
6) This then comes back as seriously f###ed shoulder, with one option have surgery to repair dammage or never carry a pack etc again!
06/12/2001 at 18:13
When I went to the docs with my hands, he told me, "give up climbing or die!"
I'm still here and I'm finaly going to the orthopod on Friday.
06/12/2001 at 21:04
Well this is all very encouraging...

my father-in-law has told me that the end of the line is when "you have to get up in the night" (if you know what I mean). Thankfully that ISN'T happening...yet.

I have to agree about the recovery times, I play squash twice a week and warm up and down properly, but still end up with stiff limbs in the morning.

As for that Bonnington fella, and his mates Redgrave and Feinnes...They are an inspiration to keep going, but if the body is already buggered...it's not much of an ispiration. It's more a case of "the lucky b@$tards!"
06/12/2001 at 23:55
Any way I'm only 20 and now not looking forward to getting old ps on the shoulder front I had a bankart repair in the summer and am now getting used to carrying a pack, my rehab was boosted by a good weekend in the lakes (wiht various members of this site) in sept apart from that touch wood I am alright for the moment!
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