Bikepacking

Is it as simple as backpacking on a bike?

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24/06/2012 at 21:27
I planning on going bikepacking soon and I've got everything for backpacking and a bike, including a handle bar bag (Alpkit Airlok Xtra).

Is it just as simple as doing the two at the same time?

Ed
24/06/2012 at 21:52

Rucksacks over the smallest and bikes aren't a happy combination over any osrt of distance.  The more weight you can get off your back the more comfortable it is.  You'll not get much in to a bar bag, and if you do it may upset the steering.

Pete.

24/06/2012 at 22:12
I thought my 55ltr would be a bit too much, mind.
The thing is I'm helping out with a scouts camp at the weekend and I think the distance is a bit too far to walk and I'd rather not drive, you know.
As I said,I've got a bike but it might not be feasible with a pack, like you said; and lack of experience.

Cheers

Ed
24/06/2012 at 22:22

I'd agree with Pete, except that I'd ask what sort of route you're thinking of, on or off road? If you intend doing a lot of "rough stuff" then panniers aren't great (possible - I've done it - but not great as they rattle and shake, tend to catch on things, make it hard to pick up the bike if needed, and your rack and pannier fixings need to be strong to take the jolting). But putting the load on your back does mean keeping it very light and compact.

A couple of other things to bear in mind - i) carrying enough basic tools to keep the bike going (pump, spare tube and/or puncture kit, probably tyre levers, some kind of multitool, and a bit of lube, should cover most "routine" problems); ii) keeping the bike secure, carrying a good enough lock but also finding something to lock it to depending where you intend to camp.

Also consider how you plan to navigate, as in it's more of a pain having to keep stopping on a bike to pull a map out than it is when walking, and it's probably easier to overshoot turnings etc. if you're not forewarned about them. A mapping gps on the handlebars can be really useful, but failing that a mapcase mounted on the bars can really help you keep track of things.

Edit: My post crossed with yours above. I wouldn't like to try to ride with a 55 litre pack. Does your bike have a rack? Even without panniers you could potentially split the load by lashing the tent or sleeping bag or mat (or all of them in a holdall) to the top of the rack.

Edited: 24/06/2012 at 22:26
25/06/2012 at 03:06
I wouldn't want to ride wearing a FULL 55l rucsac, certainly, but shifting weight between panniers and rucsac depending on terrain works OK. You then have the option of dumping the bike and going walking, which may not be the case with a purist bikepacking setup.
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Strapped down with a bungee cord, panniers can work fine, but there are other options - a combination of bar bags, frame bags and a beam rack attached to the seatpost (with a stuffsac on it).

You might want to think about pedals - clipless, flats, clip & strap, depending on the amount of walking you anticipate doing.
25/06/2012 at 10:46

I'm just back from my first atempt at bikepacking and have the following tips;

1) make sure you panier bags are secure to the rack.

2) make sure your panier rack is secure to the bike.

3) spare straps/bungee cords are great for when tip 1 and 2 fail.

25/06/2012 at 11:00

Further from the above, note that all racks are not created equal, and the bouncier things will be the more you want one that's "more equal than others".  Tubus and Blackburn have very good reputations for being genuinely tough.

And all pannier hook systems aren't created equal either.  I personally like Ortlieb which automatically lock on to the carrier when you let go of the carry handle.  The bottom is only secured by a hook to go around the back of one of the carrier stays and a more active attachment may work better over really rough stuff.  Hooks which can be padded out to best match the rack tubing stop things moving around help.  If possible taking your bike to choose is a good thing, though sadly the case that good selections of luggage are often hard to find in the shops in the UK.

Pete.

25/06/2012 at 11:21
Fortunately, there are lots of good racks now designed to fit round disk brakes and suspension, assuming you don't go for the seatpost rack option. I used Old Man Mountain racks for many years and liked them.
25/06/2012 at 11:29
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Edited: 25/06/2012 at 11:30
25/06/2012 at 13:51

 i bet the pre-edited version was better...

SD
25/06/2012 at 14:27

 You might want to have a small backpack with your valuables in, but even that gets your back warmer. Panniers and a small bar bag were the way to go for me, but some also go for a largish saddle bag.

Although it adds weight to my Tourer I did find a double back stand is worth it as leaning bike often falls down with panniers and laying a bike down gets the panniers dirty/wet.

My local bike shop told me to forget about front wheel panniers.

I am planning a trip in the Highlands so I insured my bike fully with bike rescue etc. I had to provide a bike lock to their specification and it is heavy.

My biggest worry is broken chains and split tyre walls so I do carry a chain link extractor and a tyre boot for sidewall repairs.

Cycle chat.net has lots of useful advice.

25/06/2012 at 15:58
I have recently got back into mountain biking, (after a ten year break, for some stupid reason I thought I'd be as confident as I was at 18, but alas, I'm a big softy nowadays!) and wish to get into bike packing. The idea of being able to cover bigger distances and really get out there, and throw some small climbs on foot in too.

I've been looking into the various ideas towards it and how to go about things. I've not done a lot of wild camping/backpacking on foot but when I have gone I've only taken a 33ltr bag. However, I still feel this is too big for when cycling. The general consensus seems to be that you put certain things in bags on your bike. Handlebar bags, big seat post bags and some very interesting frame bags. (I'm very pleased to see Alpkit have one on the way too -http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16786&category_id=276

But also have a smallish bag on your back too. I think its all about keeping things balanced. Panniers can be ok, but I imagine they're a lot heavier than the above mentioned bags, and more likely to break.

EDIT: How does the alpkit airlock extra perform as a handlebar bag?
Edited: 25/06/2012 at 15:58
25/06/2012 at 17:59
I've done a fair bit of cycling in to remote areas and have found a 55 litre frameless pack in combination with a couple of rear pannier bags works well. Just keep most of the weight in the pannier bags and then transfer to the pack when you've gone as far as you can by bike. And don't lean back when ascending steep slopes or all the weight over the rear of the bike can cause some interesting stunt riding. Also helps a lot if you can bolt the pannier rack to the seat post or frame in that area. Some bikes have lugs for this, others don't.
26/06/2012 at 00:01
Thanks for all the advice here! Decided just to walk this weekend...think I need a bit more time for planning and getting kit organised before I go out properly; with work and that don't think I have the time this week

Friend of a Friend: Use the 'loops' on the side of the Airlok Xtra to put the bungees through and that holds it steady on the bar...

My 55 ltr just doesn't have the structure when it's not got much in (found that out tonight) and my 25ltr day pack is just too small by a tiny bit haha

When I get back from Venezuela in the summer I think I'm going to treat myself to a mid-sized Osprey pack...

Ed
26/06/2012 at 01:03
The GoLite Jam works OK for this because you cinch it down to a smaller volume. There's one going in the Classifieds at the moment.
26/06/2012 at 09:55
There was quite a good article in Scotland Outdoors a couple of years ago regarding bike packing. It was summer 2010, I'm not sure if you can still get back issues.

They used BOB Yak bike trailers which you can hire relatively cheaply. The article mentions that the trailers are easily detached for negotiating stiles and fences.
26/06/2012 at 09:58
26/06/2012 at 10:37
I've tried trailers - and hated them. If you travel light they're way over the top, and cause more problems than they solve. If I was carrying a 25kg sack of coal into a bothy I'd think about it, otherwise not.
26/06/2012 at 20:43
To be honest I don't think I'd take enough stuff to justify a trailer. I mean it'd only be things for a few days and travelling light...potentially via pubs!

Ed
17/07/2012 at 21:07
There is a really good bikepacking thread on Singletrack (very long though!)

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/sick-as-a-dog-so-show-me-you-bivi-bikepacking-adventure-racing-gear
Edited: 17/07/2012 at 21:07
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