...containing everything for a 7-10 day journey
After a few different long distance walk ideas, I'm finally off to walk the Lleyn Peninsula, in Wales. My planned walk is around 100 miles, and I'm estimating I'll take around 10 days max...I'm taking my time.
I packed my backpack today with all my kit and food...and I think it's too heavy at 13kgs
I'm going to go through everything again tomorrow and cut some weight, but i'd like to hear how much your packs would weigh for a similar journey, camping all the way.
13kg isn't heavy if it includes all your food for 10 days. 1kg a day?
Oh I forgot to mention I probably have enough food for half the trip...I plan to buy more as i travel. Although there is a fair amount there...
I guess it's just as this is my first trip, and I didn't know what kind of weight to expect. I feel better about it after hearing your comments though, so cheers
Donny One of the delights of backpacking is that you never stop learning! This is your first trip so you have no experience of what you need (which could be quite different from the requirements of others). When you get home, divide the contents of your pack into three groups. Those items that were essential, those that you could do without, and those items that you did not use. The itinerary you have set yourself is very sensible unlike most novice backpackers who often set themselves an unrealistic schedule. Assuming reasonable fitness, 10 miles a day is a reasonable mileage which should make every day enjoyable; you won't exhaust yourself. I'm not familiar with the Lleyn Peninsula but the map indicates that there are several campsites and small villages so obtaining water and buying food en route should not be a problem. I suspect that you don't need to carry so much food although if you are young you are likely to become ravenously hungry. I'm knocking on a bit and still enjoy backpacking but I could not possibly handle a pack weighing 13 kg. Just out of interest, and to demonstrate just how light a pack can be, this would be my list of kit and equipment for the trip you are undertaking. It is half the weight of your pack but I'm not recommending it to anyone - this is mine and it suits me (see PART 2).
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PART 3 Disposable cigarette lighter 20 Disposable plastic cutlery 15 Titanium mug 55 1.5-litre supermarket coke bottle modified as home-made hydration system 90 LED torch 20
CLOTHES WORN DURING THE DAY Patagonia Capilene long-sleeved top 150 Patagonia Capilene briefs 45 Shorts & belt 320 Smartwool sweater 200 SeelSkinz Merino waterproof socks 95 Capilene liner socks 25 Lightweight boots 1000 Trekking poles 580 Silva Type 26 compass (doubles as a mirror) 40 Plastic wallet, credit cards & paper money 22 Coins 60 Multifunction watch 55
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Good luck, Donny - and let us know how you get on!
I do admire a man who weighs his money
You have 1200 gram of food. If I assume 4 Calories per gram you have 4800 Calories. That would last me only 3 days (without the first breakfast and last evening meal.) It looks like you were estimating 6 days. Do you just eat much less than me and if so do you expect to loose weight, or have I got someting wrong.
I am now worried cause 4800 calories would only last me 1 day when walking. Am I greedy? Seriously, what is the daily calorie count for a backpacker carrying a 13kg pack? I do a 8-10 mile days walk and reckon including breakfast, lunch, snacks, evening meal and evening munchies I would eat about 5000 calories. Seriously, I need to know as I am doing a slightly longer walk around the Lakes for a similar length of time, staying high for most of the time. Thinking of hitting some pubs on the way to eat and save weight. Will need to take breakfast, lunch and snack food for at most 5 days at a time, with at least 2 or 3 evening meals (consisting of a double pack of dehydrated food or similar quantities of suppermarket dried food).
I did a two day Lairig Ghru and found my pack was 15kg before food and water!! An earlier 2 dayer over easter in the snowy weather found in the Lakes was about 14kg with food but no water.
I did an overnighter with just breakfast and enough water for a few brews and it was 9kg. this was just a late evening walk up the hill out of sight of the road after having dinner in Keswick. Kind of a very cheap b&b in the hills as I was passsing through in order to get an early start to where I was meeting people.
9kg is the lightest I have ever got my gear and that was due to very little in the way of food.
With my trip I will be doing a halfway food parcel and eating in pubs before heading back to camp high.
Ok here goes...
(in grams)1100 - Backpack1900 - Vango Banshee 200 Tent.500 - Alpkit Wee Airic sleeping mat1200 - Karrimor Sleeping bag75 - tent & sleeping bag repair kits875 - Waterproof jacket & trousers160 - Billy Can75 - Small pan175 - Bleuet Micro Stove375 - Gas bottle35 - small scissors/plastic mirror/mini led torch/whistle50 - Foam sitting mat350 - Towel140 - Hydration pack190 - Camera110 - LED head lamp + batteries75 - Gadget - knife/fork/spoon/can opener/bottle opener300 - 2 Handkerchiefs/showergel/detergent/plasters/parecetamol/antiseptic wipes/spare batteries for headlamp & camera300 - Tea/coffee/whitener/sugar
300 - 2 pairs underwear+2 pairs socks300 - 2 T-shirts120 - Swimshorts100 - sun glasses550 - fleece (also my pillow)80 - wooly hat200 - 4 mini breakfast cereal boxes200 - instant mash50 - 2 soups275 - 4 packs flavoured noodles225 - 2 packs flavoured cous cous400 - trail mix200 - biscuits100 - 1ltr water
11085g / 11.09kg
wearing130 - underwear & socks320 - 3 in 1 - trousers/3 quarter lengths/shorts160 - T-shirt1100 - Karrimor Hiking trainers75 - baseball style cap
I might well me wearing the fleece & sunglasses, that i've counted as packed.
I could lose some of the food, but i'm 13 stone and eat like crazy & I think that more time spent outside and less time in the shops the better.
Oh I forgot toothbrush & toothpaste..40-50g?
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DerekI am now worried cause 4800 calories would only last me 1 day when walking. Am I greedy? Seriously, what is the daily calorie count for a backpacker carrying a 13kg pack? I do a 8-10 mile days walk and reckon including breakfast, lunch, snacks, evening meal and evening munchies I would eat about 5000 calories. Seriously, I need to know as I am doing a slightly longer walk around the Lakes for a similar length of time, staying high for most of the time. Thinking of hitting some pubs on the way to eat and save weight. Will need to take breakfast, lunch and snack food for at most 5 days at a time, with at least 2 or 3 evening meals (consisting of a double pack of dehydrated food or similar quantities of suppermarket dried food).
hi donny, not sure if you made a typo, but a litre of water will weight 1000g, not 100g... might change your totals a bit... SORRY!
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