Mountain Leader Award

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10/07/2012 at 19:04

Hi,

 As I've mentioned in other posts, I'm interested in completing the Mountain Leader Award (Summer).

 Are there any other forum users that have completed this? Is there anything that you would recommend doing before the training course?

 I lived up a mountain for a long time and got to know the area pretty well so have plenty of mountain experience, however, navigation is something that I definitely need to work on, as well as buying new equipment.

 Thanks.

10/07/2012 at 20:12
You have to   build up many days (40?) of quality mountain  days experience. Knowing one area very well will not be sufficient. You need to venture away from home more and keep  a log of your quality days. Also wild camping , backpacking experience is required.  Also suggest you buy book , read and learn.
10/07/2012 at 20:18
Remember, you are being assessed  over 5 days as to your ability to leader people safely on the hills, across rivers and over steep ground. You need to perform to a high standard - not just know the theory. Any shortcomings will lead to failure  and  a re-assessement. It ain't a 'walk in the park'
10/07/2012 at 20:35

I'm between the training and the assessment. You're supposed to have done 20 or more 'quality mountain days' before the training course, though some of the people on my course hadn't, and as pedro says you need 40+ for assessment, and that has to be in different areas. Although the log book has a list of suitable upland areas in the UK, Plas y Brenin, where I did my training, were pretty firm that they wanted to see lots of stuff from Snowdonia, the Lakes and Scotland rather than things like the Brecon Beacons, Peak, Dartmoor etc.

Previous experience of wildcamping is useful for the training, and as I mentioned on your other thread, getting your nav up to a good standard before doing the training helps enormously - you're then picking up on other stuff rather than having to concentrate so much on getting the nav right on the course. For assessment you have to have had experience of leading and managing groups on the hills.

One of things I think a lot of people find tough on the ML is security on steep terrain and ropework. I've found doing some climbing has helped a lot with that, getting more confident in selecting anchors for example.

10/07/2012 at 22:28
Thanks for the advice. I was going to jump straight in and do the training but realised that I have a lot to brush on first.
10/07/2012 at 22:39

The training course is great and you will learn a lot but to get the best out of it brush up on your skills first.

At the end of the training course you will be advised what you require to do before returning for the assessment, which in itself is quite stressful as you are under constant assessment.

Best of luck

Slainte

Lindsay 

10/07/2012 at 22:51

Where do you keep a log prior to the course? I think I may have seen it mentioned somewhere that you get one when you register?

Cheers

10/07/2012 at 22:57
10/07/2012 at 22:59
You need to register with one of the UK Mountain Leader Training Associations, probably that of the country in the UK in which you live, and you then get sent a log book. But you can download the pages in electronic format here. Just did the English one cos the Welsh one (which I'm registered with) doesn't have the download page working. The main one you want it Mountain Leader Personal Experience log page which is on page 2.
10/07/2012 at 23:01
c'mon Kate, catch up
10/07/2012 at 23:01
10/07/2012 at 23:02
have you seen the SARDA article in this months TRAIL?
10/07/2012 at 23:04

<clips Weevil round the ear for being cheeky>

Yes   I'm off to North Wales this weekend to play with the doggies up there again

10/07/2012 at 23:09
i only skimmed the article, did they say they're going bust?
10/07/2012 at 23:12
No, they're not going bust, but like all SARDA and MR teams, have to raise their own funds to run their team. The North Wales teams including SARDA are very busy...
10/08/2012 at 11:12

I am between training a few years ago and considering the assessment next year so i intend to have a refresher day to get my weak areas identified so i can work on them.You will need to register with the home board and a 16 hr outdoor first aid ticket also required for the assessment.

Dave

10/08/2012 at 19:26
If anyone wants some days out to practice nav, ropework etc. give me a shout.

Based in the beacons, but happy to travel to snowdonia/ lakes.

WML for me next... (dreads the thought of lots of driving to Scotland!!)
10/08/2012 at 20:07

Si if ever up Scotland let me know and the practice will be good.Good luck with the WML and a few people i know have done the training and a few passed the asessment.Seems pretty full on but they say good fun looking back!

17/01/2013 at 20:41
My winter my qual was the best thing i have ever done ( less becoming a dad for the first time) ' i did my assessment in 2010 and it was a full on winter conditions, navigation is absolute key, my assessors from the lodge informed us that the winter ml is the hardest navigation assessment you can do, the assessment was hard work but you need to have the knowledge about everything in great detail and be able to show it. The assessors know if you are not. Experienced in any part of it, and will work you just that little bit harder to see how you preform, enjoy
sean ( winter ml qualified)
17/01/2013 at 20:46
Oh and summer is good navigation is very important especially night nav, lots of practice pacing, timing, etc on different types of ground and conditions, security on steep ground know yourknots and show your proficient with them, group leadership skills are very important. I just kept imagining they were children i was looking after, their safety and enjoyment was paramount but have fun its great and a written exam and a presentation on part of the summer syllabus :
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