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Thanks for this reply Hugh.
Can I quote your numbered points verbatim in a presentation I have to do soon to my school board?
I have been described as over zealous when teaching DoE navigation at Bronze level and I have countered this with a less well justified assertion that Bronze level navigation is, in its own way, more demanding than Silver and Gold. Your answer (with your googlable profile) adds considerable weight to my experience!
If you are walking in the South East the I would strongly suggest that a 50k Landranger map is all but useless for proper navigation due to the wealth of physical features available that aren't depicted on the Landranger.
To emphahsise what Hugh has said if anyone wants to practice or brush up on their navigation they could do worse than go to Leith Hill in Surrey with a 25k Explorer map and practice. It's a frustrating experience but excellent for reading the landscape e.g. field boundaries are shown but they aren't necessarily "active" ones; just the remnants of fields bounded by long abandoned ditches and banks. This and other features you can read from the map enables you to learn a lot. As it is a fairly well defined area it's hard to get seriously lost (cough....) and is a very pleasant location.
The Chilterns seem to veritably teem with footpaths!
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The publisher's copy editor missed several spelling errors and at least one incomplete sentence.
I totally agree with Kate, all books contain some errors.
In a previous thread I remarked that the latest edition of the King James Bible contains mistakes, even the late great Eric Langmuir’s Mountaincraft & Leadership still does. Any mistakes are far outweighed by the importance of the content of these ground-breaking publications and do not detract from the overall excellence of any of these works.
The author clearly states that his preference is to use 1:25k plus 1:10k maps and we could debate and dispute this, and other explanations ad infinitum.
Instead, common sense should prevail and we should recognise, as stated by Dave Whalley, former Team Leader of the RAF’s mountain rescue team at Kinloss, that this work ‘brings together for the first time Best Practice as used by search and rescue teams throughout the world’
The last words I will leave to Sir Ranulph Fiennes: ‘This book is a landmark in land navigation’.
> t may be true '...that this work brings together for the first time Best Practice
Have a word with your editor, Hugh; you missed an 'I' from the start of that sentence...
> Captain Paranoia has dealt effectively and succinctly with your comparison with the King James Bible.
I have...? Where?
> The book contains a number of serious errors which is the the duty of a reviewer to point out.
It depends on the purpose of the review; if the review is to take a holistic approach to the book, then it need only present an overall assessment of the book to the intended reader audience, and its suitability for purpose. It might note that there are a small number of errors, but I wouldn't expect such a review to detail every error; most people find such nit-picking reviews to be rather pointless and tedious, as they want to know what the book is like in general. Even in technical journals, if a book reviewer merely returned a list of nit-picking errors, I don't think the editor would ever ask the reviewer to review a book again; it's not what is wanted...
If the review is of a proof copy provided by a publisher to selected peers for peer review, then any errors found should be identified to the publisher; that's the point of peer reviews. My father used to be a lecturer, and was sent many such books to review in this way; the reviews weren't generally intended for publication, although the publisher sometimes asked permission to use the more 'holistic' comments for publicity.
Hugh, I had decided not to comment further on your assertions, regarding them as insignificant; your pedantry is your prerogative.
However, to infer that great people like Dave Whalley and Ran Fiennes write such praise for money is a slur. I took the liberty of emailing Dave Whalley and Ran Fiennes through their websites and asked if either were the case. Dave Whalley’s reply verbatim below:
I can assure you that I was not paid for my piece on the book, this is a serious accusations and a slight on my character. I met Lyle in the USA and prior to that was offered a day taking him on the hill and give him my views on navigation. I do not normally do this as I am aware of fly by night experts with no experience, especially in the world of rescue. As soon as I met Lyle I was impressed he gave an enthusiasm for the world of navigation that I have never heard before, he is a wonderful speaker and his enthusiasm is infectious, this is what I liked about him. His piece on GPS for use by Rescue Teams is the way forward and will help save lives. His book was a labour of love and years of work and though it has a few errors as has most books, I feel it is a wonderful addition to the world of navigation. I find it quiet upsetting that someone who has given his life to helping others would think I would have to be paid to write! That hurts me. I am off to do a lecture tonight for the Torridon MRT in Elgin all money raised will go to the Torridon Team, the author of these comments does not know me or how I work? Lyle is out helping the Earthquake victims just now, unpaid, that is the measure of the man, previous to this he was in Pakistan helping out there. There is a lot more to this book than a few errors, "let him without throw the first stone!"
Sir Ran Fiennes reply mirrors the above.
Like Jacqueline, I will not enter into debate with you. I will however set the record straight when your assertions imply otherwise about respected and credible individuals.
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