How safe & sensible is it to lug 16kg over the hills if you're "not fit at all" especially in the weather we had last weekend? Puffing & Wheezing ain't cool - never seen a Roller do it.
Why go light? Ur - because you got to carry it it! Surely you must even consider weight as a factor - you carry a lightweight fishing rod.
You are of course quite correct for pastime sport fishing. On the other hand I was, as Ray Mears too sometimers often ably demonstrates upon his shows, there speaking specifically of survival fishing in the great outdoors for food in the extreme of finding oneself ever stranded in the wilds with no rations for one reason or another here. You are allowed to survive you know! And in any such claimed substantiated circumstances you have the right of life to circumvent the usual course of the rules of licence in the matter too, in any such experienced emergency conditions. Hence my use of the words 'survival' and 'fishing' both close together above there in my earlier post, SD!
'Like as not, just Hobo style fishing using line wrapped around an old can, a few hooks to nylons, some hooks, flies, bait and a couple of floats and maybe you would catch as much anyway. Try it, as it always appears to work out for Ray Mears, wherever he is out 'survival fishing' in the world, Guy!' - Wrote myself.
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Hmmmm. I NEVER go on mountain or hill without:Hip flask of brandy and cigars for the summitsCafetiera for making espresso (and the ground coffeee to go with it)A lightweight fly rod and tackle for those mountain lakes/streams (and a spinning reel to attach if flies no good)A book or three to read by the light of the wind up LED torchMovie camera and still camera Wind up radio ...and this weekend was up with my son in the Lake district, Saturday and Sunday, Striding edge, huge packs (16kg each) and we slept like babies.
Hmmmm. I NEVER go on mountain or hill without:
Hip flask of brandy and cigars for the summits
Cafetiera for making espresso (and the ground coffeee to go with it)
A lightweight fly rod and tackle for those mountain lakes/streams (and a spinning reel to attach if flies no good)
A book or three to read by the light of the wind up LED torch
Movie camera and still camera
Wind up radio
...and this weekend was up with my son in the Lake district, Saturday and Sunday, Striding edge, huge packs (16kg each) and we slept like babies.
Blimey! The rest of your kit must be fairly lightweight if the total pack came to only 16kg. Before I lightened up, mine weighed 17kg with a litre of water, 24 hours' food and fuel and only one book.
Golly! Sorry, I did not mean to slag off lightweight geezers....I regard my walking/scrambling like I do the rest of life. I earn an average salary, but like to scrape by half the time and have luxuries the other half - instead of a uniformly grey existence, I like the ups and downs - oven chips one day and lobster the next. For me, lightweight seems grey, getting by on what is needed. I like heavyweight (and 16/17kg is not that heavy) hating those extra 4kg when its steep and rocky (black moments), but loving them at the end of the day (white? moments) when I feel that I would not exchange my existence for anyone else on the planet as I snuggle down with a cup of boiling espresso (I have even taken a little china espresso cup with me on some occasions (blush))...and i do know the lightweight ones do feel the same.
Oh, and by the way, I only puff for the first trips of the season - I sail all through the summer, and only really walk October to April, so in October I am 5kgs overweight and unfit. Going to do North part of West Highland way between Christmas and New Year, with a little diversion up the Ben and Carn Mor Dearg, so not that unfit (or won't be then).
I will not take the fly rod with me
My pack weighed in at 8kg at the end of the weekend gone - so probably just under 10kg with food when I set off. This is my heavier kit now it's getting cooler. In summer I'm carrying around 6kg. I've shaved maybe 4 or 5kg off what I used to carry for the last 30 years. I've done that by getting lighter versions of the kit I use rather than doing with out anything.
Doesn't seem grey to me - wouldn't do it if it was - but then I've rarely carried books, music or radio gadgets. I'm one of those that can enjoy doing absolutely nothing except soak in the views, explore the area around a pitch or sleep from 8pm through to 7am no problem.
I tend to enjoy the luxuries when camping with the family but that's a different sport altogether.
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