Having done Toubkal in Feb. I'd take a high rated down jacket, for to use at night.
The temps. can drop to -35c at night. Even in the refuges it will be cold,not much in the way of heating, the guide companys advice is to take a sleeping bag rated to a minamum of -20c
Depending on how bad the weather has been, the villages you normally leave from can have snow, one of the guides I know, skied from the refuge to Imlil in March and even using a 4x4 to get to Imlil had to leave it a mile below and walk up.
Wasn't quite that bad when I was there, snow line was about 1700m, but was still below 0c even during day.
Hi Kelvin, how are you keeping? How's knee?
Even with layering, I'd definitely take a down jacket rated to -15c at least. After sun goes down, even in the refuge, the temp. drops like a stone.
Went from -10c to -20 in around 10min.
On summit was -26c at noon, with the sun, in a cloudless day.
Kelvin, glad to hear your better. See your still doing 'stupid' things, like me!!
I'm still at physio for mine!! Went to a climbing wall a few weeks ago and had to bail, just to sore. I did do dry tooling and that was OK. Must be in the way you use legs for different climbing.
Have a good trip to Morrocco.
Maybe c soon.
Thanks Michael, appreciate the info! I finally got myself a Montane North Star down jacket, guess it should be enough for the temperatures there.We're sleeping in Mouflons, so the roaring fire is a very good news!
Also, hopefully that snow from earlier this week will consolidate over the next 2 weeks, and fingers crossed it ain't gonna snow heavily over that time - would be shame to have to turn back before reaching the summit...
I agree with that!
Scree near summit is a nightmare if not frozen, 2 steps forward, 1 step back!!
Or slipping and sliding on way up. Nearly sliding whole way down.
RE. Crampoms and boots, I'd recommed plastic double boots if you have them.
Much warmer than leather boots, especially if having to stand about for a while.
B3 boots can take any crampon, for Toubkal I'd recommend ones with front points, If route up from hut is iced over, you may need them, route can be steepish in parts, espesially if going by North Col.
A daft dog followed me and some other folks all the way from Imlil to Neltner, then onto Toubkal the next day, all in the snow and ice... and it wasn't wearing crampons.
The guys at the refuge wouldn't let it in the building, but let is stay in the wood-box outside overnight, and kept it fed with our left-overs.
I still can't figure out if it was just out for a lark, or whether it might have made a serious error of judgement by following us!
Not revelent really,
When I went it was the coldist, snowyist winter on record. We stayed in the Netfler, no heat of any kind.
We then dropped down and when for the NE ridge. Due to late start and me being slow, we had to bivvy at @ 3800m in a small rock curve. Temp. was at least -35c, guage didn't go any lower.
Made the top at 11.30hr next day, bright sunny day, not a cloud in sight, -26c, scree still frozen solid. Decended by the N col ridge on to Imlil.
Grand Taxi to Marra. arrived @ 17.00hr, temp +28c. Slightly warm for the down gear and layers I was wearing!!
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