Padjelantaleden & Kungsleden

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29/06/2012 at 08:25
Hi there,

I'd like to get some info on the itinerary (planned for the second half of July) below:

Sulitjelma  – Sorjushytta – Staloluokta – Vaisaluokta – Ritsem – Sitasjaure – Hukejaure – Salka - Abisko

I'd welcome (even incomplete) answers to any of the following questions:

1)What are the chances I could get a Coleman gas cartridge at Staloluokta, Ritsem, or any other place on the above trail?

2)Is there a chance to buy an insect repellent somewhere on the trail? I have a head net, but if the little beasts start winning, I'd like to be able to respond effectively.

3)I already have a map for the first part of the trek (up to Ritsem) and I plan on buying a map for the northern part somewhere on the trail. Could I get one at Staloluokta, Ritsem, or any other place on the above trail?

4)I'll be sleeping in a tent and would like to know if reindeer herds could pose any kind of problem.

5)Are subzero night temperatures in July rare or not so rare?

6)Are there any nasty fords (ice-cold water, very high water level, …) on the trail?

7)In Northern Europe I've hiked in Norway (Rondane, Jottunheimen) and Iceland (Langmannalaugar – Porsmork trail). How do these treks compare with Padjelantaleden/Kungsleden? Is Padjelantaleden/Kungsleden more demanding? If yes, then in what terms?

Finally, two bonus questions referring to my itinerary.

A)Instead of going from Hukejaure to Salka, I could go to Caihnavaggihyttene and then to Unna Allakas and Abisko. Alternatively, from Caihnavaggihyttene I could go to Katterat or Riksgransen (via Unna Allakas). Has anyone taken these trails? Are they well marked, more spectacular, …?

B)Is it possible to reach Staloluokta via Ragohytta (Rago National Park)? On the Norwegian online map there is a path from Ragohytta towards the Swedish border.

Many thanks ...
29/06/2012 at 12:25

There are two shops at Staloluokta - where the stugu is in a village (helicopter service, but no road access). therre's also another shop st Ritsem. I can't guarantee you'll get what you need there, but I think there's good chances, certainly insect repellant (the locals use it), probably gas, but I'm not certain about maps, though. You can buy food to cook yourself in all the other stugor, so they may have other things available too. Send an e-mail to the Ritsem Youth Hostel and ask about maps. You could even post one to yourself at Ritsen YH.

The track is easy to walk and easy to follow - well way-marked and signposted. In fact, Kungsleden is a bit of a pedestrian motorway with hordes of folk walking it in the summer. All the big rivers are bridged. You may have to boulder hop over some of the smaller streams, but nothing serious.

Temps could get down towards freezing, but not seriously below it.

Reindeer are not a problem with camping. Loads of folk do it. In fact, you can camp at the stugor and use their cooking/indoor facilities for less than half the price of sleeping indoors, so the stugor are all surrounded by tents.

Edited: 29/06/2012 at 12:26
01/07/2012 at 23:29

To point B above: It is not possible to go from Rago to Staloluokta unless you walk either over the glacier Blåmannsisen or north of Vastenjaure and go south.  The river into and out of Kasakjaure is impossible to ford, and there are no bridges there.

Otto

07/07/2012 at 22:09

Hi Ludo,

You asked about the route Katterat or Riksgransen via Unna Allakas. I did Katterat to Unna Allakas and then on to Alesjaure etc a couple of years ago with my old lady (I can call her that 'cos I'm an old man).  It was ok, easy enough to follow, though we had a couple of nasty fords to cross, one of them almost more than we could manage, we were lucky to get some help from a young German couple who turned up just at the right time.

/ken

10/07/2012 at 14:46

Hi Ken,

Which period of the year did you go? Based on what I've read, there could be relatively big differences in water levels.

 Ludo

PS: My thanks to Jim and Otto for their helpful answers.

11/07/2012 at 08:57
We were there from mid-July 2010. Water-levels were high due to late snow melt that year plus there had been a lot of rain. 
11/07/2012 at 21:24

Hi again Ludo

Be aware that all the Norwegian outdoor organisations are issuing warnings about access because of a very late melt season this year. There is still a lot of snow on the mountains, so much that it hasn't yet been possible to put out some of the summer bridges on some routes.

Current weather is generally not very good, with rain and even snowfall on the hills, so, because of the melt, rivers are going to be abnormally high, even in late July. If some of the bridges are still missing, you might have problems.

I haven't seen equivalent comments from Sweden, but it might be worth your while e-mailing STF, Ritsem YH or one or more of the stugor in Padjelanta and asking for information.

11/07/2012 at 22:43

Ken and Jim, many thanks for your helpful posts.  Will definitely try to get updated info on the spot.

31/07/2012 at 21:30

In the end we had the following itinerary:

Sulitjelma  – Sorjushytta – Staloluokta – Vaisaluokta – Hellemobotn

To share my experience, here are my answers to my questions:

1) + 2)The only place on the above trail where one can get Coleman gas cartridges and insect repellents is Staloluokta.

NB: To avoid any risk, I had bought a reppelent and headnet before setting off. The reppelent was a DEET one (19.9% DEET) while the headnet was pretreated with permethrin. The reppelent worked effectively while the headnet functioned only 'mechanically'. The mosquitos would land on the net and stay there for hours as if there was no reppelent ... Hence, it looks like an ordinary headnet (untreated with permethrin) is sufficient and less hazardous

3)There was no place on the trail where one could buy maps.

4)We only saw a few small herds between Sorjushytta and Staloluokta. The animals were timid and posed absolutely no problem.

5)The average night temperature was 5-10 degrees Celsius.

6)The only nasty ford (ice-cold water) was between Sulitjelma and Sorjushytta.

7)On the whole the trek was not much demanding except for the fact that some parts were very wet. We often had to deviate from the marked trail to keep our feet as dry as possible. Even so, our gore-tex shoes (new shoes!) resisted for the first five days only. No wonder most of the people we met on the trail wore rubber boots ...

NB re Jim's note on bridges: How can one find out which bridges are permanent and which ones are summer bridges only? On my maps there is no such distinction.

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