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Is it safe with large rucksack?

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Robert Browne
19/04/2012 at 15:10
Hi guys,

This is my first post to the forum so hey there everybody.

I was just wondering, have any of you walked/scrambled Crib Goch with a 60+ litre rucksack. I am planning another trip to Snowdonia soon with a friend which will involve wild camping for several days and climbing around 8-10 peaks. As such, I will be carrying a fairly bulky rucksack with my gear in it.

I have always wanted to do Snowdon via Crib Goch, yet the people I have been with at the time have always refused/offered to take me to the nearest mental hospital. The pyg track is nice...but it's just not the same. This may be the only opportunity I may come by for a while and I was wondering how safe it would be (in good weather) to traverse with such a large pack?

Anyone who has managed this before, please let me know!!

Cheers,
Rob
Steve_D
19/04/2012 at 15:55

1) Hi and welcome

2) The PYG track is not nice

3) If you feel confident moving with your pack on then it shouldn't be a problem.  You need to be able to reach above you and look up, the pack should be not too wide and I'd avoid having kit hanging off that can get in the way as well.

Have fun

Steve D

ed h
19/04/2012 at 17:31

Yes - not that you'd often see me with a 60+ litre pack...

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/edh247/b_lessstyle_400w.jpg


That bastard Skip
19/04/2012 at 19:16
ed h wrote (see)
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/edh247/b_lessstyle_400w.jpg



'Zat you then, Ed?  You share my hair stylist it seems

Simo
19/04/2012 at 19:23
Depending on your route you could cache your 60l pack somewhere and do it with a daypack ? I would of thought the weight would be an issue more than the size I wouldn't fancy it with anything really heavy like 20kg.
ed h
19/04/2012 at 19:29
That's not me Bastard; I've a full head of tousled sun-bleached locks
Kelvin
19/04/2012 at 20:02
Bleach? Showin' your roots mate.
Chewie
19/04/2012 at 20:33

I go with the cache your gears somewhere.

But otherwise I would say it depends On your own abilities and confidence, but it isnt as bad as people say - though I dont personally rate it in fact after 3 visits I still dont like it. 

Maybe worth searching how people compare it to other ridge walks you may have done.  

That bastard Skip wrote (see)
ed h wrote (see)
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac90/edh247/b_lessstyle_400w.jpg




'Zat you then, Ed?  You share my hair stylist it seems


 Skip, I though that was you !!!! Any way I recommend your stylist 

Robert Browne
19/04/2012 at 21:07
Cheers guys! Anyway, my hair is likely to be gone as well after the stress of Crib Goch!!

Judging by the advice I think I will either pack light to keep it less than 15kg (could be an issue as it is unpredictable Wales weather and a long trip) or I will see if the youth hostel by the car park will look after my gear for the day.

Out of interest, have any of you camped at Llynau Diwaunydd at the bottom of Carnedd Moel Siabod (I hate these Welsh place names!). I am used to wild camping in forests and don't know how boggy these welsh lakes tend to be.

Cheers again for the help, hopefully some good photos to come of the trip after May.
Explorer
19/04/2012 at 21:12
I'd definitely recommend keeping the weight down for any scrambling. It's also worth making sure that the weight is well distributed so that is doesn't unbalance you.
Metric Kate
20/04/2012 at 00:24

Robert - yes, I camped just on the edge of the forestry on the N.E. side of Llynau Diwaunydd on my ML training expedition. Really nice spot trashed by chavs, a lot of rubbish around, but the weather was horrible so there was a preference for the shelter of the forestry and we were able to find a spot a decent distance from the mess.

btw - I'm sure that photo of ed had been rotated clockwise by several degrees

Milly.
20/04/2012 at 10:06
Metric Kate wrote (see)

btw - I'm sure that photo of ed had been rotated clockwise by several degrees

philip lenaghan
20/04/2012 at 12:04
It's definitely doable with a 60+ litre pack. Myself and a friend backpacked across north wales taking in the major peaks and ridges carrying 70 litre packs and did Crib Goch in the rain and fog after ascending snowdon via Watkins path with said rucksacks. However we were very fit 20 Year olds at the time. In fact that whole trip was a week of bad weather and the conditions were rain and fog for Tryfan, the Glyders etc. In fact I think the only welsh peak I've climbed when it has been dry was Cadair Idris.
Steve_D
20/04/2012 at 12:18
Simo wrote (see)
........ I would of thought the weight would be an issue more than the size I wouldn't fancy it with anything really heavy like 20kg.

But people do mountains a lot bigger with heavier packs than that, I do 3-4 day trips in Scotland across similar terrain, typically carrying 12-15kg depending on time of year.

The OP should be able to get a reasonable packweight give that he can re-supply fairly often.

Steve D

Steve_D
20/04/2012 at 12:20

Just a thought, there are some cracking pictures of Crib Goch in the Scrambling article in this quarters Summit magazine.

Steve D

Grumps
20/04/2012 at 13:01

I'm always aware of my sail area on exposed ridges - Crib Goch do get blowy at times.

You don't sound too confident (better than over confident!) so if you can cache your pack safely I'd say good idea.

Enjoy your trip. Probably not the best choice of phrase.

Edited: 20/04/2012 at 13:02
Robert Browne
21/04/2012 at 14:12
Thanks for all the words of wisdom guys. I have a fair bit of experience moving with my pack and am still only 20 so fitness shouldn't be a real issue. Will probably take minimal water/food up with us and re-stock in Llanberis to keep the weight down. Going to keep things hanging off the bag to a minimum to stop those winds sending me down!

Should be an interesting trip, all 15 of Snowdonia's 3000s and a few more peaks just for kicks. Although if its howling like a banshee, will probably leave the ridge for this time.

If any of you are in the area late May, see you there!
ed h
21/04/2012 at 14:14
I backpacked the Welsh 3000s which is where the picture above is from; it's a great trip.
Ron Rees Davies
21/04/2012 at 21:18
Robert Browne wrote (see)
Should be an interesting trip, all 15 of Snowdonia's 3000s and a few more peaks just for kicks.

Depends a bit on your defiintion of 'mountain' but there are now 16 x 3000's - Castell y Gwynt has just 50ft of prominence above the surrounding plateau of Glyder Fach and although it doesn't seem like a real mountain, it's certainly worth including in the Glyder traverse.  

Robert Browne
21/04/2012 at 21:43
Make that 16 then! Even if it's only a Nuttall. I might be trying to do Elidir Fawr via the old Dinorwic slate quarry roads/inclines if I can reach the summit that way...anyone else managed this as opposed to the route from Nant Peris?
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