First Wild Camp

Any Suggestions?

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10/04/2012 at 18:51
Each to their own mate, we all have different priorities.

Include a little history in your walks. Pecsaetan - Ancient Derbyshire, Staffordshire and South Yorkshire - http://pecsaetan.weebly.com/

10/04/2012 at 18:55
Make sure you look at the hone quarries while there - and the sodding great flywheel in the building below. A grand area. You'll be missing out if you don't whizz up to CL while there though! It's a nice route.
10/04/2012 at 19:04
rob dixon 2 wrote (see)
Make sure you look at the hone quarries while there - and the sodding great flywheel in the building below. A grand area. You'll be missing out if you don't whizz up to CL while there though! It's a nice route.


The plan is to get up and go to the shelter on Foel Grach for breakfast then decide where to head. CL and Yr Ellen are on the list of priorities and then we'll see what happens next.  Very much looking forward to a full day up there to explore.  Lets hope this undeciding weather decides to be good to us.  I will be sure to post some pictures up.  Thanks to all for the great advice.

10/04/2012 at 20:27
Good luck and enjoy the experience, it really is the best way to get the most from the outdoors.
10/04/2012 at 20:36

I always take spare socks and a travel towell.  I'd drop the wine (but as Twiglet said take more rum or another spirit). I take spare headtorches too.  In the present weather I would not take a spare hat or gloves (that's for proper cold). 

Whateve, you'll be fine, enjoy it.

11/04/2012 at 08:15

<Spare socks - I would hate to get wet feet on the walk in, but its pretty straight forward I guess.  I guess they can go too.

Your only spare socks? What about if you get into in camp after having cold sodden feet all afternoon? bed socks at least for me

<Spare batteries, its two tiny AAA batteries, and if my torch goes.....??

Is it an LED torch (probably)  - unlikely to run out for an overnighter (or even a week long trip if it's a decent one) . 

Even Ten Tors (Dartmoor Youth Overnighter Event where the kit list is exhaustive) participants don't have to carry spare batteries if their torch is LED....

I would always take spare gloves in the hills until summer. 

But that's just me - I hate having painfully cold (wet?) hands in a biting wind at 500m+....

I'd not take a very big FAK, flask,travel tap,multitool or  Antibacterial gel

I eat lots in the day, so probably take and more snacks or butties/pasty/pie

11/04/2012 at 15:14
rob dixon 2 wrote (see)
Also, you must be very well-off to use Wayfarers!!! Tesco etc do very reasonable pastan and sauce meals for a fraction of the price and they are more than adequate. Add dried fruit and instant custard for a decent meal - with cuppa soups to start.
My vote goes on the pasta option, or any other options come to think of it - no thanks to Wayfearers or similar meal - mainly as Rob says - far better flavours and value for money, not to mention more filling
Friend of a Friend wrote (see)

I have been toying with going for meths,


Is that instead of the wine or spirits - now that is Hardcore
11/04/2012 at 15:18
Chewie wrote (see)
Friend of a Friend wrote (see)

I have been toying with going for meths,


Is that instead of the wine or spirits - now that is Hardcore


I imagine the 'messed uppness' to weight ratio is far greater, and it doubles up as fuel!

Also, I've not actually bought some wayfarers meals, I'm sure I mentioned wayfarers type.  Can't remember what I bought but it was a much cheaper option and turned out to be pretty nice, after a bottle of wine and rum in a bunkhouse anyway

11/04/2012 at 22:59

I'd ditch the multitool and the thermos and the booze.

Typically I consume more snacks than expected, so take plenty.

Better take a spork so you don't need to eat your Wayfarers with your fingers or the multitool.

I'd take sunscreen, toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant, loo paper, trowel, pencil stub, soap. These can be just a few grams each.

Take 2 or 3 spare poly bags. They are very light and tend to come in useful, if only for carrying out trash.

All all costs, keep your sleeping bag dry. So take a suitable drybag! You probably want to keep your spare clothes dry too. Don't rely on your rucksack to be waterproof.

In summer don't forget the insect repellant; you can also take a light pair of shorts for swimming.

If you are with a companion, some things you don't both need to take; this also applies to some spares.

I like to have a checklist as it helps me to pack quicker without forgetting stuff.

Have fun!

12/04/2012 at 00:05

One gentleman I heard of parked his car at the bottom of the hill and climbed to the top. When he got to the top he realized he had forgotten something vital. So he left his stuff up there and climbed back down to his car to fetch it. When he got to his car he realized he had left his keys at the top of the hill!

So, don't forget to take something to light the gas with. Firesteels are good because they are dependable and work even when wet.

  

12/04/2012 at 00:16
Don't ditch the booze. Take enough to get merry with!  I have a lightweight hip FLASK that lets me take half a bottle of spirits!
12/04/2012 at 09:39

We're off tomorrow!  And the weather is looking great.  Thanks for all the help, everyone, it's really helped going through my kit and mentally packing over and over, so much so I've managed to narrow my list down to.

Sleeping bag (alpkit PD400)
SI Mat (Alpkit)  } both in a dry bag.
Mini Trangia with a gas burner and small canister
Wayfarer type meal each
Porridge each
Plastic spoon
Instant soup for 4
Usual snack bars and nuts
Coffee sachets and sugar
Mini Thermos flask for drinking out of and carrying coffee etc.
2L Bladder
2 plastic bags
Gloves
Very thin LS Mid Layer
Pata Nano Puff smock
Waterproof
plasterss, antiseptic wipe, burn gel (instead of a full first aid kit)
Torch
Map + Compass
Phone (GPS)
Camera
RUM
Red Wine - in a plastic evian bottle that can be crushed down and/or used for water.

I'm pretty pleased with how light my bag is and, more importantly for me, the factt hat it easily fits into my 33ltr bag.

My only dilema now is do I squeeze some shorts in too, the weather is looking lovely but will it be shorts weather hmmmmmm

12/04/2012 at 09:44

Have a good one

- please tell us how how it goes - if you were cold or hungry etc.  What you needed/didn't need wished you'd taken or not. Maybe useful for other 'newbies' who might see this thread?

12/04/2012 at 10:06
Suggest you have a good look at MWIS. Just come back from a couple of days in the Moelwyns. Anything higher up, you are likely to get shot blasted by passing hail showers, which can last several hours. Don't rely on it being at all warm, it almost certainly won't be.
Edited: 12/04/2012 at 10:06
12/04/2012 at 10:09
Mole wrote (see)

Have a good one

- please tell us how how it goes - if you were cold or hungry etc.  What you needed/didn't need wished you'd taken or not. Maybe useful for other 'newbies' who might see this thread?


Will do Mole, I'm also hoping to start a blog/website and may write this up to put on there.  I'm not going to do a website that professes to being an expert, I know I'm not, but thought it would be a good angle to do a site that focusses on someone learning the wild camping ropes.

One more question though, a couple of people on here have mentioned personal wash kits.  Am I being dirty in thinking that for one night this really isn't needed?  In the morning I will no doubt splash my face and pits with water but wouldn't bother having a proper wash, I'm only going to get sweaty and smelly as soon as I start walking.

12/04/2012 at 11:08
I always insist on a full washdown and anointment with various unguents even on single overnights; it's basic hygiene and decorum.
12/04/2012 at 12:02
and the anointing is usually done by a small but loyal entourage of Nubian concubines. I Know.
12/04/2012 at 12:17
  definitely going to need a bigger bag for that!
12/04/2012 at 13:08
FOF - it's a personal thing. I always reckon on a shirt-off wash unless in the vilest blizzard. So I would take minimal wash kit, including a flannel, which is really useful for other stuff like drying yourself (no need for trek towel), drying a flysheet (inside and out), drying dampness inside the inner such as the inevitable drips etc when you get in, soaked. Also, if expecting a boots-off river crossing, handy for drying feet (tho trouser legs/sleeves can do this too, but if you are carrying it, keep it handy then dry it on the top of your pack).
But if washing, do ensure you don't contaminate other people's drinking water downstream. Washing out of a billy then slinging the water well away from the stream is good. And obviously the same sort of thing applies to taking a dump! At least 50m from a watercourse, preferably much further, especially if there's a risk of rainfall running through where you have been...
Have a bloody good time!
12/04/2012 at 13:17

Baby wipes for face, pits and nethers (in that order) is all you need for overnighters IME.

As Mole said, do come back and let us know how you got on.


Trouble no one about their religion;

respect others in their view and demand that they respect yours.

~Chief Tecumseh~

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