Could always do the Edale Horseshoe again if no other suggestions come forward and of course finish off in the Nags Head, guess I'll have to make my own up by consulting the OS maps........again. I remember the very first time we went up onto Kinder, we were camping at Easter tiem at Coopers and went for a short walk up Kinder, got totally lost and ended up on the snake pass !!!!, course that was in the days of college studenthood with no cares (and no compass!!!). Still to this day could not re-trace those steps again to see where we went wrong. (Oh by the way it was extremely foggy on the tops). Now days I'm a damm sight more prepared !!! Here endeth the lesson !!!