Scrambling gives me the willies

Ben Hedley

10/04/2002 at 11:29

for basic rope techniques, try that pink mountaincraft book

Dave Moseley

10/04/2002 at 21:35

there's also a book, by Steve Ashton I think, called Scrambling Techniques (or something similar) with a piccy of Loch Corruisk on the front

Orange Alex Ford

10/04/2002 at 23:03

hmmmmm is it the one in this months Trail???

Jon Doran

11/04/2002 at 09:40

Do you mean this?

Scrambling is really just low grade / alpine style rock climbing, so the techniques are really just the same. Watch the site next week...

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

Dave Moseley

11/04/2002 at 22:13

No Jon, it's "the scramblers handbook" I think, red cover, I lent it to someone and can't remember who, but it probably duplicates what all the other books say. It would be interesting to try to photograph parts of different routes to try to show folks what they can expect to find on grade 1,2 and 3 scrambles, if anyone out there wants to fund the making of a video of the Cuillin traverse (including the more interesting bits), I would quite willingly go and take care of the filming, this would take quite a while of course because we would have to do ALL of the alternative routes, we reckon the video could be made about a month long!!! to include it all, answers on a postcard please.............

Jon Doran

11/04/2002 at 23:08

Dave, watch this space...

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

Simon Kirwan

12/04/2002 at 09:15

You'd probably want a stills photographer along as well....

Hedgehope Aztec

12/04/2002 at 09:17

One bit of advice I forgot to add. When making a move always try and work out how you'd reverse it, just encase of a forced retreat.

Hedgehope Aztec

12/04/2002 at 09:17

encase? in case!

Jon Doran

12/04/2002 at 09:30

Good point. Generally, it's as well to bear in mind that it's harder to downclimb than to ascend, partly because you can't see what you're doing as easily, partly because it's simply a much less natural action anyway.

It's quite easy to get out of your depth then have problems reversing what you've just done. It's also harder route finding in some cases - as an unnamed OM member and myself will remember from descending the North Ridge of Tryfan on the first OM Meet-Up last year. It's easy to pick a straightforward line up, but less simple going down when you often can't see what happens beyond the next edge till you get there.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com

ben kirkham

12/04/2002 at 10:43

Anyone ever thought they have just soloed rather than done a hard scramble

In the past I have looked back at a guide book, seen where I went off route, and found out that that tricky move was actually a 5B move from a classic trad.

and please no comments about route planning and nav, we all make mistakes from time to time.

Simon Kirwan

12/04/2002 at 10:54

And there's only one thing worse than blindly following others, and that is the realisation that others are blindly following you, assuming that you know exactly where you are going.

I was on Tryfan North Ridge with Mule, or the Fat Bobby, as he is affectionately known at the nick, attempting to prise his fat arse up and over a bit of a tricky bit, and saw a queue forming behind us, as we finally managed to negotiate what has become known as the Mulick Step, an interesting new variation which probably takes the route up to Grade 2 if you weigh 15 stone...

Dave Moseley

12/04/2002 at 22:32

we were being followed recently by a group which included a rather not unattractive young female, we were messing around looking for difficault bits, after a bit of struggling/laughing and swearing I managed to get past one bit, she decided she wouldn't try then came out with the question "oh, I haven't got to go down again have I?", several rather tastefully smutty comments followed, then they started doing their own route finding, (don't think her male companion was too impressed)

Orange Alex Ford

15/04/2002 at 21:29

Scared wittless by Crib Goch today, five points of contact at times...but great, great fun!

Dave Moseley

16/04/2002 at 21:59

try using yer teeth, I've seen people almost doing that

Orange Alex Ford

16/04/2002 at 22:01

lol...I didn't think THOSE marks on the rock were cramp-on scratches...

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