Avoiding the A4086
I have a group heading to Snowdon in July, We have to get from the Carpark at Nant Peris (SH605 583 ) having come down off the open access land, to the path at (SH614 576) Preferably without walking along the A4086 too much.
I know that some path has been created along the road for part of the route, any advice on the safest way to do this? I'd rather take a group up Crib Goch than walk along that road!
Looking at the map there apears to be open access south of (SH614 576) but it doesn't include the bridge or access road, there is also a path marked along the southside of the river. Does anyone know if there are access restrictions along this path and the bridge?
Yes, Steve, there's a path that's been created that covers nearly all of the link you're after. We've used it 2 or 3 times in the last year. It's on the RHS as you head up towards Llanberis Pass. It starts just out of Nant Peris and mostly it keeps a stone wall between the road and you.
Unfortunately it stops, probably 300 or 400m (from memory) before the footpath you're heading for, and there's no alternative but to keep in and go single file by the wall until you reach the lane entrance to the footpath you want on the opposite side.
As I said, we've done this a few times - with kids you'll need to impress on them the need to keep in and pay attention, but the traffic we've encountered has always been ok, not travelling overly fast on account of the bends and the proximity of stone walls to paintwork!
I've never spotted any alternative - the land in the valley between the road and the river on that stretch is pasture divided into fields and typically being grazed, so there's no open access.
Btw, that footpath up into Cwm Cneifio is an excellent route, especially the first half, very quiet in comparison with most of the Glyders approaches, and some fantastic views across the pass to Snowdon and Crib Goch.
That is pretty much what I had expected, It just doesn't look good on the risk assessment!
I've looked at the path to Cwm Cneifio a few times in passing so looking forward to getting the group up there. It is a training Gold group of 17-18yo girls, well up for the challenge, I gave them the option of Snowdon Via the South Ridge or Glyder Fach, after seeing my photos they chose both!
Just waiting for the OK on the routes now, I would really rather do the South Ridge rather than the ranger path, which is the alternative.
This might be way out of the question - I'm not sure what you can stretch to with a keen Gold group - but have you considered the route off Snowdon from near Clogwyn Station down Cwm Glas Bach? It's used by a lot of folk on the S-N Welsh 3000ers and it brings you out onto the main road via the bridge right opposite the Cwn Cneifio path. The top few metres are a bit steep and shaly underfoot but for most of it there's a decent enough track on the ground and not much difficulty.
I don't know if it's feasible for your group, I certainly wouldn't have suggested it if you'd said Bronze!
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