The Forest of England?

Thanks, Both, for responses.

Here are answers. 

1. Cache supplies.

2. Not hiding.

AF. 

'Twas a jest, of course - and if you were, you're not likely to tell here!  I did meet a couple of guys in Lairig Leacach one winter who said they were on the run from the CSA!  It'd be interesting to hear how you get on - I'd be quite envious in a way.

I'd be interested to know, too, if ALL woods are owned.  There are several areas of land I know of which are ownerless, but these are commons, with minimal tree cover.

I wonder if it might be worth speaking to the FC directly?  Just thinking, too, ofanother idea.  Whereabouts are you looking to do this - assuming it's not hypothetical? If in SW, I may be able to help.  Would you be prepared to work in the woods for an owner - or work on their farm?  I don't suppose they'd expect too much!   

<I'd be interested to know, too, if ALL woods are owned.  There are several areas of land I know of which are ownerless, but these are commons, with minimal tree cover.>

I think that you will find that all land in England is owned by someone. Even commons have owners. The term 'common land' means that others, apart from the landowner, have 'rights in common'. This means that some people may have the right to graze animals (pasture), taking fallen wood (estovers), feeding pigs on acorns and beech mast (pannage), fishing (piscary), the taking of peat and turf for fuel (turbary).

Hugh

Rob

Thanks for your comment. Are these commons ownerless or is it just that the owners are not known? In other words, how do you know that they have no owner? I'm genuinely interested because I've not come across this before and it is obvious that you know more about the subject than do I.

Hugh

GOF - interesting.  i guess if one was able to go back far enough, with good records, it may be possible to establish who owned it 'then'.  But for these areas I'm speaking of, no commoner, farmer, parishioner, parish, district or county knows of the owner.  There is no registered owner.  The areas are pretty stable so local knowledge is invaluable.  For two of these, at least, I have tried quite hard to establish ownership.  Without going into detail, it makes my life more difficult for this to be the case!

And back to the OP - I await a response from AF, as I may have a solution.

Probably not going to find a dense enough forest to disappear into Alf, but how about hiding in plain sight? Dartmoor has so many walkers and legitimate wild campers moving on it you wouldn't stand out. Provided you kept moving who would know how long you had been on the moor? Enough towns about to restock, and plenty of places to cache - a GPS might be useful here. That's how squirrels find all those nuts they bury when winter comes!

Open moorland not so good in foul weather. But less people walk in woods in foul weather too,  so you'd be less likely to be discovered if you moved to woods in winter.

www.coleshillhouse.com/bunkers.php

if i REALLY wanted to go to ground

I've found one of the bunkers in wooodland in East Sussex and was in pretty good shape. Is this what you had in mind?

Folk seem to be mixing up UK with England. As usual.

You can bivvy almost anyplace in Scotland, and nobody will ask you to 'get off my land'.

Re commons

 I've just received an email frm Kate Ashbrook, General Secretary of the Open Spaces Society (formerly the Commons, Open Spaces & Footpath Preservation Society) confirming that all land, including common land, in England and Wales is owned by someone. There are cases where the owners cannot be traced, and some who may not even be aware that they are the owners.

 Hugh

TP wrote (see)

Mike. OP mentioned England.

AllFumbs wrote (see)

(And if England's a closed-shop far north or west are also under consideration.)