To Wild camp or not to Wild camp?

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22/05/2012 at 16:01

Hi

I am a newbie here. I have been tasked with this years family outing. We like walking and tend to camp for a few days every year in one great big group, the more remote the better. This year we want to go to Dartmoor and would love to Wild Camp but with at least 10 adults, I am worried about the logistics of this. Is there any really, really remote campsites you would recommend? I figure it might be easier to pitch up and then go and explore but Wild camping is what most of them want! Typical awkward family!

Any advice would be grateful. I have a map of where we could Wild camp but normally we use a large family tent and a few smaller ones and it would mean us changing that and be in at least four tents!

Thanks

Michelle

22/05/2012 at 16:13

To go right off the beaten track for wild camping, you're likely to need a fair bit more kit (like the tents would need to be light enough to carry etc.)

Also, everyone would need to make sure they can hold everything in...or someone's bringing a trowel!

One really important thing is water. Obviously there will be no tap as such on the fells. You could either take enough water to cook with and water the next day but this will be ridiculously heavy. So, plan to camp near a stream (you need fast flowing water; standing/stagnant water is a definite no-go), as high up (near the source) as possible. This should give you plenty of clean water. You can use chlorine tablets to purify if you want (I don't always use them). This will give a slight taste; if that is such a big deal, take neutralising tablets as well (or use Chlorine Dioxide).

Remember that if it is a dry weekend, the streams will be lower.

I would say go for a campsite, especially since the group is so big and if no one has wild camped before.

*disclaimer: Wild camping is still a great way to get out (best of all it's free!), but given the circumstances, you're probably best sticking to a campsite*

22/05/2012 at 16:20

Hi Michelle, welcome to the Forum

As edd suggests, do think about the environmental impact of wildcamping. It's an absoultely fantastic way to camp, but with such a large group of newbies environmental impact is likely to be as much a problem as logistics. Unless you break your big group down into a couple of smaller groups and camp in different locations, but that's probably not the point of the outing.

A really basic campsite, with just a standpipe, might be just right though. I know of a couple in Wales, but not on Dartmoor. But there are some OM regulars from that neck of the woods who might be able to help you.

Whatever you end up doing, hope you all have a great time

22/05/2012 at 16:57
I think that with "at least 10 adults" your to an extent missing the whole point of wild camping.

I have no specific knowledge but I think there MIGHT legal issues with that many people camping together on Dartmoor*.

Edd alludes to needing a trowel but with (from memory) the average human daily poop being 300gr a long weekend for 10 would mean needing to deal with 12kgs of the stuff along with upto 80ltrs of urine.

Personally I think you'd be better off going to a out of the way 'basic' campsite.

* theres not a blanket right to camp on Dartmoor.

22/05/2012 at 17:37
Not really in the spirit of wild camping is it, and the logistics would be a nightmare, but if you could break it down into smaller tents why not, just go take a walk past Styhead tarn on any decent summer night.......

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22/05/2012 at 17:49

>A really basic campsite, with just a standpipe, might be just right though. I know of a couple in Wales, but not on Dartmoor.

Try Tor Royal near Princetown - very basic, only a tap. Enough space for large groups. 

22/05/2012 at 19:05

I had been thinking about breaking the group into really small groups and doing it that way. I agree that 10 adults would be a nightmare to Wild Camp. I have done it with my late husband but can't imagine everyone coping. I think a really basic campsite will work best. I really aprreciate all the help.

I have looked for Simply Dartmoor Camping at Tor Royal but don't seem to be able to find a website anymore. I have looked at it in the past. Is it still open? If not does anyone know of any other sites that are basic.

Thanks again. 

22/05/2012 at 19:15

Mole?

Mole!!

22/05/2012 at 19:28
I've not used it myself but I think Runnage Farm campsite is meant to be pretty basic and quiet. I'll check with someone who's stayed there.
22/05/2012 at 19:52
I don't know what the situation is around the SW of England, but here in Scotland the Forestry commission (as was) used to have very basic camping areas (tap + toilet) which would suit what you want to do. I'd check out to see if there are any in your part of the world.
22/05/2012 at 21:38
Matt C wrote (see)
I've not used it myself but I think Runnage Farm campsite is meant to be pretty basic and quiet. I'll check with someone who's stayed there.

I stayed at runnage farm a few years ago. It is fairly simple: there is a large field for pitching, with a nice modern toilet/shower block and a washing up area. It would be good for a group base camp, although it is quite remote.

>I have looked for Simply Dartmoor Camping at Tor Royal but don't seem to be able to find a website anymore. I have looked at it in the past. Is it still open? If not does anyone know of any other sites that are basic.

I went there in May 2010, so it is possible that it has now closed - there was no sign of the owners when we were there.

22/05/2012 at 23:03

I camped over Dartmoor in April 2011 (and later in August too).  Three of us camped at Sandy Ford.  A procession of DOE kids walked past our site in the morning with 3 leaders.  I think they all camped at Great Links Tor.  I estimate about a dozen folks in all.

For anything over Dartmoor (as Kate has eluded to), Mole is your man.

Edited: 22/05/2012 at 23:15
22/05/2012 at 23:10

I agree with the various posts above. At least 10 adults is one heck of a lot in one group, one spot, for a few days. Great potential to spoil a lovely place. Sorry - don't mean to imply you will, but who hasn't seen such a site after a group of inexperienced campers has departed. If I was walking on the moor and found such a group, my heart would sink.

I suggest a low-key camp site such as mentioned above would be ideal - you'd feel it was remote and it would give you access to cars, pub etc - and enable you to drive to different parts if you wish.

I hope you enjoy it, whatever you do.

You could try this link which is farm sites for ten tors training - some might allow you to use the site?

http://events.exeter.ac.uk/tentors/training/2012/43Wessex/FTT%206-12%20Campsites.pdf

23/05/2012 at 04:31
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Edited: 24/05/2012 at 07:15
22/07/2012 at 13:44
Could be a problem finding an area that's flat enough for such a large number of tents (assuming we're talking 5x2man tents).

The Plume of Feathers at Princetown might be worth a look for that number of people - not exactly wild camping but you're right next to the nuns cross / burrator path which is well worth a stroll. You're also close to a plentiful supply of Jail Ale which is another bonus!
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