Tryfan summit camping r we crazy?

Hi All

I haven't had any time to investigate this this as it was only suggesteed to me today but can anyone confirm if there is any safe-ish routes and suitable pitching areas to wild camp somwhere on Tryfan. Obviously Depends on the weather at the time and also between now and then presuming there is not too much snow whether this would be ok without winter equipment, ie crampons and axes etc. We all have experience of mountain walking and low grade scrambling but I don't think any of us have done a winter trip before. I have camped in snow a few times so am prepared for how low the temps might go.  I'm gonna look into it more ie study the map etc but thought you guys would be the best people to ask? Do you think we are biting off more than we can chew by attempting this without crampons etc. Obviously depends on the conditions at the time plus the amount of snowfall between now and then. We are thinking of going on 28th of this month.  

tryfans a big slabby pile of rock, a beautiful big pile of slabby rock i may add. In winter it gets quite greasy in rain and if its cold enough covered in ice, and then there snow covering the ice quite often. i wouldnt reccomend you climbing tryfan for the 1st time  via the north ridge unless you had experience on this type of terrain. in the summer its a much easier proposition.

 you could of course approach from it the other end where there is only a couple tricky bits  and camp below at one of the lakes perhaps. If you wanted to camp on top you'll need  a drill to get the pegs in as its all rock!

I think you'd struggle to find any grass to pitch on, although it is 17 years since I last went up Tryfan. I seem to remember a flatish section of rocks near the summit where people were resting. You might possibly pitch a geodesic type tent here somehow.

I've camped at Llyn y Cwn in the past. It's in the bwlch between the Glyders and Y Garn. You could go over Tryfan and the Glyders before descending to Llyn y Cwn. This way you'd get a bit of walking in to tire you out a bit before you camp. Check out if the descent from the Glyders is still safe as I seem to remember it was a bit loose and scary back in 1991.

You could get a tent up around three-quarters of the way up the North-ridge where the scramble flattens out....how comfortable that might be I know not

Have a look at this....

Tryfan Wildcamp

Nothing to do with me!

Showell Styles was amazing. I went to Malta a few years ago to write a walking guide, and found that Showell Styles had done more than that, writing a walking and climbing guide to the island back in the 1940s!

Wallace wrote (see)

Have a look at this....

Tryfan Wildcamp

Nothing to do with me!

Wow! Pictures 7 and 8 in that sequence! Not for the MILD camper!

Ed - throw me a link to the Crib Goch pitch - I can't find it.

I once bivvied (no sleeping bag - just lying on a cagoule) beside the Westmorland Cairn on Great Gable, trying to remind myself not to roll over as I fell asleep, otherwise I'd wake up in Wasdale Head!

Right.... after sorting myself out regarding uploading images I find everyones posted everything I wanted to!

However - fair play Sam, awsome effort if you pull it off. Camping on the true summit is really only possible if you have a heavy drop of snow which ices over as it is just jumbles of rocks and no flat bits. The east side has small ledges, like the photo's suggest.

Not really much proper snow this time of year, just wet, greasy and possibly icy. Snow generally comes in March, but nothings predictable nowadays.

Can I suggest the "football pitch" on the Y Gribin ridge nearby. Nice views, airy pitch but pretty flat and grassy!

This is the bit on the Nth ridge I was thinking about....

Not easy but as long as your tent will take some serious wind its doable on the North Ridge.

On the summit you would have to some how pitch on rock , if you can find one big and flat enough that is.

In reasonable weather you could try somewhere near SH669583.

 The Carnedds offer far better camping. And it's a lot quieter too!