Where in the UK for big Beech woods?

(Where I can wild-camp.)

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30/04/2012 at 06:41

I'd like to be able to stay awhile in a really big Beech wood (or better, forest).

Reason? I have been partially-deafened and left with raging tinnitus. Thro' experimentation I've found that the soughing of the wind thro' the leaves of Beech (and Hornbeam) trees soothes me. (I'm not kidding.)

Or if someone knows of Beech woods within sound of the sea even better!

Thank you,

AF. 

30/04/2012 at 07:43
The Chilterns are good for beech woods... but not so good for wild camping... and absolutely appalling for being near the sea!
30/04/2012 at 08:09

Like Paddy says, the Chilterns are excellent. an alternative may be Glocuestershire:

Gloucestershire Beeches

I assume you've seen Richard Mabey's book Beechcombing


30/04/2012 at 10:12

Interesting. I also have bad tinnitus and have noticed I sleep better outside, but I hadn't put it down to wind noise. My doc says when the tinnitus gets unbearable he can fit me up with a white noise earpiece to help mask the ringing - so is the soughing an alternative? Does it matter if the leaves are green, or in their brown, rustling, state?

There are machines available which can make that noise in your bedroom. One sufferer I know also has a complicated apparatus to duplicate a breeze in his bedroom, although that is intended for another medical condition. It blows gentle winds over his bed with appropriate sounds. Without it he has no chance of sleeping at all. It helps the tinnitus as well. The same condition has pushed his weight up to 27 stone so wild camping is not an option!

Where are you based?

Edited: 30/04/2012 at 10:14
30/04/2012 at 10:45
Thank you, gentlemen.

PD and DM: I'm not far from The Chilterns, in fact: unfortunately, the north-eastern end of the chain, where the Beeches are few and in thinnish strings. It's popular with walkers and replete with land-owners hence short of campers. And DM, thank you for telling me of R. Mabey's book. No, I'd not heard of it. My posting is the first thing I've done to spread the net.

Grumps, I use behind-the-ear white-noise generators. They help, only a little. The wind in the trees helps a lot. I can only guess that its the difference between synthesized and natural. (The WNGs' sound is, frankly, wearing; while nature's uplifting. There it is.)

That's a good question you ask about the wind thro' green Beech-leaves or brown. The answer is it's soothing thro' both. I think it's the leaf's wavy airfoil shape rather than the apparent greater rustliness of the brown, desiccated state. Quite by chance this came to me over these last four seasons. I found myself being drawn to the few clumps of Beeches near-ish to me. But it was only after the leaves had fallen that the penny dropped, too. Of course, the Beech is unique amongst deciduous varieties in retaining its leaves long into winter. There is a God, but it took me a while to recognize it.

At night I have a sound-device that puts the sound of the sea into a pillow fitted with small speakers. It helps – again, only a bit.

The tinnitus can drive one stir-crazy. That's why I need to get out. Thank you, all of you, for your help.

AF.

30/04/2012 at 11:51

Epping Forest is principally beech with a lot of hornbeam.

I understand exactly what is said about the sound quality of the wind, also the light dappling.

Camping in the forest is very frowned on by the Epping Forest Constabulary.

There is a campsite at Debden Green where you can camp right up to the Forest edge.

Many or most of the beeches are pollarded or copparded. They are overgrown and weak in the crown. They tend to come crashing down and I ghave had a series of near misses sleeping under them. Ray Mears advises not sleeping under beeches for these reasons.

30/04/2012 at 13:10
Would camping near a stream help? Lots of wildcamp areas have streams.
30/04/2012 at 13:29

there's lots of beech trees in the woods abutting the north downs/greensand way - look either side of dorking.

whilst these are close to popular spots large areas are easy wildcamp on but you do need to suss out spots that will work for you e.g. box hill is a very popluar spot and the green at the top can be heaving with people but in the woods you see very few people and on the eastern edges it's very tranquil.

i have noticed that in many woods there appears to be a flurry of "management" going on (perhaps only in national trust woods) with what looks like opening up the forest floor by thinning.

30/04/2012 at 17:33

Thank you, 'Weevil', 'Sum Won' and 'Parky Again'.

'W.', perhaps I'll visit Epping Forest: see how it 'feels'. (Thanks for the tips about the anti-camper constabulary, btw, and unfortunate tendency of Beeches to fall on one. I should prefer to avoid a visit from either, particularly the 'Branch!)

'S. W.', that's a good suggestion: seeing if I kip any better near a brook. (If I don't get sleep soon I'll be the one babbling.)

And 'P. A.' thank you, too, for the very specific recommendations. I'd allus meant to walk the Greensand Ridge. (It's nearby.) Perhaps Beech flourishes in that soil. A weekend recce should rustle-up the odd likely place.

Again, thanks, everyone.

AF.

Edited: 30/04/2012 at 17:35
30/04/2012 at 18:01
Be wary around beech trees, they're known as widowmakers as they drop branches more easily than most

Like others said lots of beech trees in the chilterns
30/04/2012 at 19:16
Why not approach a land owner, explain your reason and ask for permission to camp?, You might just be surprised.

Include a little history in your walks. Pecsaetan - Ancient Derbyshire, Staffordshire and South Yorkshire - http://pecsaetan.weebly.com/

30/04/2012 at 21:04
When you find your favourite natural ambience, I'd suggest borrowing a decent sound recorder and recording a few hours of it for use at home.
30/04/2012 at 21:19
I'm glad that thought struck you, 'benp1':

it'll save the branch striking me. I consider myself duly warned.

'twiglegs', I would never have thought of that: how commonsense! Thank you.

Ditto, 'TheAdrian'. Actually, last night I pictured myself doing that very thing, complete with sound-boom and one of those fluffy grey rats covering the microphone. In view of the danger posed by falling branches, esp. in the wind, I'd best make that an exceptionally long sound-boom, perhaps.


AF.
30/04/2012 at 21:44

Get a hearing aid! I have raging tinnitus, and was having trouble hearing people, notably things like hat and cat sounded the same, my brain was trying to fill in. Usually badly. A hearing aid for the worst ear seems to turn the gain down and reduce the tinnitus in a way that music or other noises never did. Noise would simply drive me nuts as the tinnitus would seem to 'beat' with it causing really wierd effects. AndI can hear what people are saying to me more accurately. 

Your friendly GP surgery may have a hearing tester that will tell you if you do have a a problem worth following up with the ENT/audiologists. 

30/04/2012 at 23:49

Hello, Beth,

Thank you for your suggestion but er, I already have hearing-aids. (I hadn't said for the sake of brevity. Sorry.) I was part-deafened and gifted tinnitus, hyperacusis and vision- and balance-anomalies in a workplace accident not my fault. After I consulted a solicitor my contract was terminated.

I also have behind-the-ear white-noise generators. And custom-made earplugs with built-in attenuators [filters] to protect me when I have to walk past road-drills or may encounter ambulances/polis cars/fire-bobbies with their sirens and klaxons, various. And now I have hearing-aids with Greenfang-capability, too, to stream music into my ears, for this new therapy I'm following. But you don't get the 'Mini-Tek' streaming-device on the NHS and I can't afford same as I'm out of work: insomnia and depression, caused by the tinnitus. Ha!

Apart from that, fine.


AF.

Edited: 30/04/2012 at 23:51
01/05/2012 at 12:59
What Ben said. Beech has nasty habit of dropping branches. I've always been told to camp away from them. Others too are known for this but beech is the worst. Feel sorry for you. It can be bad for some. I haven't got it but occasionally I hear like a has rushing through pipes noise which might be a related condition but it goes eventually.
01/05/2012 at 12:59
This woodlands site might be useful if researched with OS maps and/or Google Earth.
01/05/2012 at 17:01
Thank you, TP,

You're kind. I hope I didn't lay it on too thick but it has altered my life, not for the better.

My weekend hobby of over 15 years was to pobble across the countryside on an off-road pushbike. I'd be out all day, winter and summer, gleeful. The week after the accident, near' three years ago, I tried to ride but kept falling-off: my balance just goes.

I haven't ridden since and miss it dreadfully.

Still, in nice Zamberlan boots, with the aid of a stick and under the watchful eye of a friend I've learned to fall off hills, gracefully. Quite by chance was it that the wind in the Beeches revealed itself to soothe this twin-jet inside my head. I just want to take more of the medicine. I do greatly appreciate the kind warnings of the Beech's sudden frangibility and shall not camp near to them: within earshot not headshot.

Thank you, too, Grumps. I like poring-over maps, pretending I understand them. This should be something of an adventure.

All the best to all,

AF.
01/05/2012 at 18:44

Hope you find relative peace, AF.  I have tinnitus, but it's relatively mild.  Every now and then, a new tone will appear for a few days, and then usually subside.  I'm used to the background tone now, but the new tones keep me awake.  I dread it getting worse.

Of course, thinking about it has now made it seem louder...

01/05/2012 at 18:49

Oh, and google may be some help.

Ironically, it finds these...

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