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Cut For Pie-Eaters - The Editor Rants...

Loose fitting technical clothing doesn't just look awful, it also undermines the performance of your clothing system, so what the heck is happening? The editor goes off on one...


Posted: 14 February 2006
by Jon

Every so often I'm stricken by a desperate need to have an editorial rant and, you'll be glad to know, today is the day...

So what's the rant about? Fit, that's what, or more specifically, outdoor clothing fit. Could someone please tell me why so much outdoor clothing has enough spare room inside it to carry the odd hyena, a selection of comfy cushions and still leave a massive air gap?

Surely, you think, outdoors people are fitter, healthier and slimmer than the rest of the population? So what's going on. Okay, here's an insider secret. Gear companies want to sell as many jackets, trousers and so on as possible. If you cut your kit slim and athletic, you automatically exclude anyone who happens to be carrying a bit of extra weight and, that cuts sales. Cue pressure from the company's sales reps and retailers for a fuller cut.

Better Fit - Better Function...

The result is a 'fit-as-many-people-as-you-can' generous pie-eaters' cut that hangs loose on anyone who's moderately fit. So what? I'll tell you what, close-fitting technical clothing works better than loose-fitting technical clothing.

Close Fitting Base LayerNot only does it weigh less, but by removing gaps and flappy pockets of air inside the clothing system, it ups the insulation value by reducing heat loss by convection currents.

In the case of base and mid-layers, it allows your wicking clothing to do its job by actually being in contact with the skin rather than hanging over it - how can a baselayer wick if it's not touching eh? And with breathable outer layers, it's just as important.

Gore-Tex, for example, requires a temperature and humidity gradient between the inside and outside of the garment to drive moisture outwards. If you introduce huge air gaps, the temperature and humidity of the higher volume of air inside the clothing goes down, the gradient is reduced and the whole system works less effectively.

Then there's neatness - what's the point of climbing jackets that billow out under a harness and pack, sometimes so far that you can't see your feet properly on the rock?

Stretching The Envelope

Properly-cut articulated clothing doesn't need to be loose to allow mobility and even better, the technology is there to improve fit even further. I'm talking about stretch fabrics...

CLose Fitting Hard ShellUnaccountably a lot of garments use stretch panels at the back of the shoulders say, or at the elbows to 'increase mobility'. But if you do pull against the stretch, the cuffs simply pull up your wrists, duh. There's nothing to hold them in place. Nope, the real potential of stretch fabrics is to improve fit, use them in side panels to pull the backs and fronts of jackets in or at the base of the hood to allow the wearer to remove and replace it without adjustment. It makes so much sense, but you rarely see it done.

Hats off to the handfull of companies that stick to their guns and produce slim-fitting technical clothing that's cut to work for active people. I'm talking the likes of Arc'Teryx, Patagonia, Montane and Rab - with their Extreme range - and, though they seem to get precious little credit for it, Lowe Alpine, whose latest shells are beautifully sculpted. Maybe they'd sell more if they went for a fuller cut, but then they'd lose their technical effectiveness and after all, isn't that what it's all about...

More generally though, if you want your clothing system to work as well as it possibly can, whatever size you are, then you need to track down clothing that's cut to fit you as well as possible without restricting your movement. We take it for granted that some boots suit our foot shape and some don't, so why don't we take the same attitude to clothes?

And as for women's-specific clothing, don't get me started on that...

Rant over. Have a close-fitting sort of day :-)

Jon - the editor


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I broadly agree with Jon's rant, but it's not just a question of fitting as many people as possible. Manufacturers would like us to buy a new item of clothing for every activity - one jacket for climbing, one for walking, one for camp, one for wet weather, one for cold, and so on. I, on the other hand, want one jacket that does everything. Generally speaking a looser fit that allows me to get fleeces and such underneath is more use than a tighter fit that doesn't.

When I think of the way waterproofs and fleeces were cut in the 1980s and early 90's I think we've moved a long way forward.

Posted: 14/02/2006 at 13:21

I found this as well, so what I did was eat more pies. Simple really.

Posted: 14/02/2006 at 13:41

Ummm. For some time now I've found that clothing manufacturers have been tweeking the fit of garments to the extent that they Don't fit me properly anymore.
Example.I have an old Montane Chonos smock it fits like a glove, size 40.I purchased in a sale an Extreme smock which I had to go upto a large size 42-44 to get it over my arse.I'm the same size I was 5 years ago.
The new smock is huge in the shoulders the neck is tight the arms are too long and those new elasticated cuffs totally eliminate the ability to vent your arms.
My old LA Flash size small, fits like a dream, newer LA stuff comes up tight around the butt/shoulders with shorter arms.This all means going up a size, hence baggy clothing.
One reason I've gone over to made to measure.
Whats going on?

Posted: 14/02/2006 at 15:25

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