Depends what I already own and how long I'm in the area for. (Might buy a new map if I rate it useful). Either take a waterproof map sans case, full size with ortlieb case or if prepared, A4 printouts in A4Ortlieb case.
Of course Mole you may have a point, however we are drifting away from the thread slightly, for which I should take the blame.
Indeed. You obviously have a lot of valid points about this subject, so, like I suggested, maybe make a specific thread about it to raise awareness, rather than piggybacking it onto vaguely elated threads where your message may be lost/discussion limited? Feel free to quote all my responses here on the new thread.
There's a change going on - I'm guessing the old school bricks and mortar retailers had a similar qualms when shopping online started (Obviously not the same situation, the advent of online retailing was an even greater existential threat in a way - join it or find a niche or go under)
If you ever visit the big European Trade Fair I'm sure you would have a field day. Better still the Chinese Trade Fair would entertain you for many more.
Not sure what you are trying to say here?
If I want a specific thing I'll do the research, shop around and make choices based on info available. I bought one pot which you or ULOG no longer sell as an individual item, and one Inner on spec. I have no intentions of having a retail field day anywhere. A trade show is my worst nightmare.
I see your concerns about Ali Express and also the copying. Maybe you need to start a whole new thread about it? Get a wider audience?
But not everything there is an unbranded copy. Though granted, product support is tricky at a distance.
I recently tried it out (tempted by the cheap Inner discussed above).
At the same time I ordered a Toaks 550 Ti pot from a different supplier - mainly because I couldn't find it in the UK as a standalone pot (you sell it as a part of a full setup, but I don't need/want that or the price it entails)
Both arrived in 10 days, both had as good comms and functioning tracking system as anything I've bought in Europe.
The Inner doesn't look particularly like anything special I've seen on the market (maybe the MLD old version is nearest). It's made well enough, and fits the SL3 well (Trailstar a bit of a mess, but useable with tweaking). No idea how waterproof the groundsheet is yet, so maybe it'll need polycro on wet ground.
My risk - buyer beware as ever- you get what you pay for.
I think we all know that without having it patronisingly pointed out.
I agree it's not great that your stove has been copied.
But, pot/kettle springs to mind here?
You have long profited from marketing/retailing the MKettle - design 'stolen' and copied from -the designer of the Back Country Boiler - well documented at the time.
And also sell the Solo Stove -which is a Bush Buddy Copy - also unapproved by the original designer?
I'm sure the original one man band designer/makers are shrugging too....
and, haven't Luxe copied a little from Oooworks too? (lineloc3/struts on inners?)