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Hey Kev, do you think that holder would fit a bottle 650ml, much like a sigg? If not I'm going to order the one Hedley likes of ebay, I was all set to make something so blingy or not it will still look better and very cheap. Thks for the advice and links.

 Hi all, just got back from a trip following the river Dee into the cairngorm mountains. Really got the chance to test out the granite gear crown and trailstar for the first time. Trailstar preformed brilliantly and any worries I had about using it soon disappeared although getting in and out can be a right royal pain with less than ideal ground conditions. The inner I got from oookstar also did its job well.

However i couldnt use the side pockets on the crown very well and wondered if anyone knew of a good hipbelt water pocket. thks in advance.

You find find the luxury and comfort a trailstar inner from oookstar gives is worth the extra weight, I know I do but I'm not sure of your circumstances.

http://oookworks.com/OookStar.html#

They are custom made per order with many options.

for a cheap tasty light meal cush a pot noodle up in A food bag, there's a good selection. chinese curry to beef and tomato. well.... i love um

or to much vodka