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Welsh 3000s Attempt Aborted Due to Early Monsoon

The unexpuragated truth about the OM attempt on the Welsh 3000s from OM member Simon Kirwan


Posted: 24 June 2002
by Simon Kirwan

Despite valiant efforts by two determined assault teams, the OUTDOORSmagic Welsh 3000s completed two-thirds of the course before admitting defeat

Rain slanting down from a slate-grey sky, buffeting gale-force winds battering the sides of the summit station, the thumping of the electric generator vibrating the concrete platform - yes, it's midsummer night on Snowdon, and things have not started well for the OUTDOORSmagic Welsh 3000 Mountains Madness team.

Before the deluge... Ben, Alex and Simon prepare to leave
Pen y Pas for the slog up the Miners Track

The advance party of Alex, Ben and Simon reached their intended bivvy site on schedule, but almost immediately concluded that a night out in the open promised little in the way of sleep in the prevailing conditions. Already soaked to the skin, and dangerously close to the end of the maltloaf, the decision was taken to descend the Llanberis path, effectively ending their attepmt by missing out Crib Goch and Carnedd Ugain. "No mountain is worth a life" said Team Leader Alex Ford. "The mountains will still be here next year. I know you've spent your life savings getting here, but I couldn't live with myself if I had to tell Ben's mum any bad news."

By midnight, the advance party were negotiating the tricky ground down Llanberis High St, hoping to find a taxi. Eventually locating a driver prepared to take on the extraordinary journey to Dol Gam camp site ten miles away, without informing his next of kin, and even turning down an invitation from two passing supermodels cruising the streets of Llanberis looking for three blokes in wet walking gear to take to an all-night celebrity party, we made it back to Base Camp, our hopes and dreams shattered by the charge of £17 for the taxi fare.

James, Simon and Lloyd below Cwm Glas, Snowdon
refuelled and gagging for Elidir Fawr

At 3.30 am, Lloyd and James departed from Pen Y Pass in the worst weather conditions since records began. Frost bite was a real concern, but they continued, arriving at the end of Crib Goch north ridge on schedule at 7.00 - unfortunately, already disorientated by the swirling Welsh mist, they got lost above Cwm Glas, and further time was lost on the ascent of Elidr Fawr when Simon was forced to become detached from the party. "I'll only slow you down - you'd better shoot me," he said, but after consuming six more banana-flavour energy gels, was able to continue at a more leisurely pace.

The support team were able to rendezvous with Lloyd and James on Y Garn, although had better things to do than wait for Simon to arrive, so he was forced to plod on without his pole for the rest of the day. By now, there was a very real danger that the team would not complete the route before the pubs shut, so a decision was taken to bail out after descending Tryfan. Obviously this had nothing to do with the deeply uninviting prospect of trudging up Pen Yr Ole Wen, followed by another six hours of plodding over the Carneddau.

Simon waits tragically for the support team
who'd already run away in the face of blurry
conditions.

The team assembled at the Tyn Y Coed for a debriefing on the day's event. It was agreed that the Greater Snowdon Traverse achieved by the advance party in the atrocious weather conditions of Friday night more than compensated for the missing seven peaks, and there was probably no need to trouble our sponsors with this minor detail.

A small amount of alcohol was consumed in celebration, and the team agreed to make another attempt next year, provided the Met Office could guarantee 14 hours of uninterrupted sunshine. "We'll be back next year, no question," said Alex, "Only better prepared, and with more energy gel in case we meet those girls in Llanberis again."


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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who rolled up - it's a shame it went the way it did, but that's mountain weather for you. Well done to everyone and big apologies to Simon for not hanging around on top of Y Garn - quite nasty it was up there. Oh, and Adam, thanks for the pints, the expenses claim will be with your shortly :-)
Posted: 24/06/2002 13:02

No apology necessary - it was great to have a support team driving us round, providing energy bars, and lending dry kit, although I did seem to end up looking like I was off to do the shopping rather than the Welsh 3000s...
Posted: 24/06/2002 13:37

Thanks to Adam for the Pint(s) and a big congrats to everyone who braved the foul weather on friday/sat morning. Plus a big TY to Jon n Alex for allowing me to hitch a lift in their motors! Role on next year
Posted: 24/06/2002 13:43

Well done all of you...shame I was otherwise engaged...I would have enjoyed the beer at the end - not sure about the rest by the sound of it! Have you all dried out yet?
Posted: 24/06/2002 13:43

my waterproof trousers were still wet last night! The maps kinda dried out thought its still a wee bit mushed On relflection the £17 could have been saved by accepting help from two very cute young girlys in the astra (F reg) If your out there, thanks for stopping BTW! That it really until the alps now in outdoors weekends :0(
Posted: 24/06/2002 13:55

I think the whole west coast was filthy on Saturday, the only consolation for me being that I had Carn Mor Dearg Arete to myself (and no midges!). Had to seriously consider making the first surfing descent though.
Posted: 24/06/2002 14:15

Yep, thanks to all for the support team. Great food & beer in the pub, and above all super company, had a great time despite not knocking them all off. The mountains, they'll still be there next time, another go next year anyone! Had a good day yesterday after hiring a mtn bike in Betws and trying out the new singletrack in the forest. About 2.5-3hrs & well worth it despite a puncture. Even managed to visit Betws without making any gear purchases, most unusual!
Posted: 24/06/2002 17:37

I'd like to thank Jon for the opportunity to have a go at the whole thing. Adam for the beer, and ALL for the company! Lots of serious lesson there mind you. The event isn't a walk in the park and it certainly made me realise that sometime, you have to say what you feel about certain circumstances. For instance as soon as "going off the mountain" was mentioned on Friday night, all agreed. I think that if we'd have looked at the conditions at P-Y-P and said bugger this, lets go tomorrow, then the others would have gone along with it. If we had saved both ourselves and our gear for the morning by changing the plan, I think more of us would have got further round... Still, I think we made the right descision once at the Summit of Snowdon. And as people have said, there's always next year. Now does anyone have £230 spare for a new ME Lhotse jacket...?
Posted: 24/06/2002 18:57

Yes, I had a great time once I stopped trying to keep up with Lloyd. And that redhead can't half shift those pints of Flowers...
Posted: 24/06/2002 19:13

Yes, they certainly got from the bar to the table very quickly...
Posted: 24/06/2002 19:16

that weekend didnt half shift my bank balance...in the wrong direction.......
Posted: 24/06/2002 20:33

hmmmmmm good food and beer in the pub though!
Posted: 24/06/2002 20:41

2 true....thought with that alcohol i was hoping to sleep better`
Posted: 24/06/2002 21:23

Did I dream this, or was there a reference on Saturday night to the drinking game played in Dad's Army, when Captain Mainwaring gets drunk? Something along the lines of: "Here's to the health of someone or other ...."?
Posted: 25/06/2002 13:21

erm.................not that i can remember, but i can never remeber anything
Posted: 25/06/2002 18:35

nah...I must have been at the bar...
Posted: 25/06/2002 20:56

So Alex I think that as you tried so valliantly I will post the cheque on to you... forgot to do it last week very busy oops will do it tomorrow!
Posted: 25/06/2002 22:11

So, are we going it give it another bash sometime, prob next year now as summers over. tho a winter version could improve he epic value
Posted: 25/06/2002 22:39

I am deffo going to have a proper go at it again. In fact may have a go at it BEFORE next year...
Posted: 25/06/2002 22:55

I hope summer's far from over Ben. Yep, ditto definitely be giving it a proper go again. Could also be tempted for THIS year too. I go try and get away most w\ends anyway, though with hol plans 27th July to 11th Aug (mtn biking in Alps) and Kona 100 (July 7th) and Summer Polaris (July 20/21st) agreeing dates would be likely to prove difficult. Damn, looks like I've listed my diary & told people off about that on the Meets forum. Forgot to mention dentist's on ..
Posted: 26/06/2002 10:10

Late August? For a re-run, sorry re-walk!?
Posted: 26/06/2002 10:17

Provisionally yes, though would want to avoid bank hol w\end for obvious reasons which would leave Sat 17th or Sat 31st. Not thought it through , but if we did same route the lack of earlier morning light shouldn't prove a great problem as that part of the route (Snowdon) is obvious anyway, apart from descent from Crib Goch. If didn't plan on bivying I'd be tempted do Crib Goch on ascent anyway.
Posted: 26/06/2002 10:37

I wouldn't be planning a bivvy UNLESS it was good weather. Not quite sure I understand what you are saying there Lloyd. Could you clarify please? (Soz my brain is muddled...just had to get down from the sorting stuff out in the attic it's hell up there!)
Posted: 26/06/2002 10:55

Macpac Minaret, 2.5 kg, bombproof, sleeps two people, don't have to pitch on the summit itself, I have two of them... Don't ask. Jettison in Cwm Glas, no probs... :-)
Posted: 26/06/2002 11:03

It reads alittle muddled too Alex! prob because I was trying to write it while checking that no-one was looking over my shoulder! Essentially saying that in August it wouldn't be light until much later in the morning, but that I didn't think that would be a great problem as the routes up Snowdon from Pen-y-Pass are very obvious. Added that I'd be tempted to Crib Goch and the other one on the ascent anyway, and descend down the Pyg Track\Miners Track as this would be quicker despite more of a road slog. Certainly on saturday James & I ended up pretty close to Pen-y-Pass on the descent from Crib Goch anyway.
Posted: 26/06/2002 11:15

should read ... tempted to do Crib Goch on the ascent anyway...
Posted: 26/06/2002 11:17

ahhhhh I see...sounds a good plan
Posted: 26/06/2002 11:21

We did Snowdon from P-Y-P in 1 hour 45 mins on Friday night. I also think that judiciuos positioning of cars "en route" would be advised, as well as the support car. This would provide useful bail-out options. If it were to be done again, it'd be best to have a Plan A, B and C for each stage. Of course events move on, but it'd probably be better to not to have to think so much on our feet and mate decisions which could prove hasty, and incorrect when viewed with the cold light of day.
Posted: 26/06/2002 11:37

I, on the other hand, intend to approach the whole thing with a casual disregard for nonsense like support cars and strategically-positioned bail-out vehicles. There is, however, no way, that I can be arsed to walk up Snowdon before starting out. I'm more inclined to catch the train up there on Friday afternoon... I also reckon that fixing dates is asking for trouble, or rather bad weather. The best option is to agree on a few possibilities and then make a decision based on the weather etc. Maybe I'm just not cut out for this sort of thing...
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:05

Agree re: positioning of cars. One thing we'd be unlikely to match on a repeat attempt was the level of support, that was first class. With the right planning I wouldn't totally rule out a N-S bid. Though some we'd need to be as optimistic as the guy me & James met just about to up the Glyder's thinking he'd only 6 left. Doubt he finished! Bombproof or not don't think I'd have liked to have bivvyed on the top on friday night.
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:08

Agree with Jon about the fixing of dates thing...we could perhaps try to sneak up on the mountains (and the weather) when they aren't looking. I have jotted down a few points. I don't think that they are for general circulation on the forum, but if the participants want them drop me an email.
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:11

christ my english is getting worse, that should read:- With the right planning I wouldn't totally rule out a N-S bid. Though we'd need to make sure we're not as optimistic as the guy me & James met just about to up the Glyder's thinking he'd only 6 left. Doubt he finished!
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:18

Yep, dates can only be provisional. We've got to be prepared to turn up, and if it ain't good make other plans. There's other things to do in the area anyway. Though can't think of too many besides mtn biking.
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:21

Castles.
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:30

Hmmm Pub.....
Posted: 26/06/2002 12:43

I remember thinking as we passed the guys pitching tents just off the path below Snowdon summit as we squelched our way down - that looked a better idea than bivvying. I agree with Jon about the ascent of Snowdon - the Welsh 3000s start on Snowdon summit, so there is really no need to pile on the agony by adding that ascent to the actual route. Maybe taking the train up is going a bit far, but I think our original plan of walking up by the Pyg Track was only defeated by the weather, likewise James and Lloyd would have had less difficulty had they found their way off Crib Goch without route-finding problems.
Posted: 26/06/2002 13:44

I thought that too Si...They weren't that far down, but it didn't look a bad campsite...
Posted: 26/06/2002 16:04

To be honest i don't think the extra ascent is a great problem, after all it's only 1hour and 45mins tops. Also it would be easier to take Crib Goch on the ascent (which would take longer) but to head down one of the paths. It was pretty windy in the camp site at Dol Gam on friday night, no doubt it was much worse further up tent or no tent.
Posted: 26/06/2002 17:42

Agree with Lloyd. I'd rather like to take in Crib Goch on the way up and then get down the Pyg/Miners track sharpish. I could cope with a slog along the road I guess...
Posted: 26/06/2002 19:03

Hello everyone! Bad luck guys - I remember on Friday evening thinking how foul a night it must've been for you... I disappeared for a while as I final year coursework and exams kicked in with a vengence, and I really was spending too much time here. I've also pretty much entirely lost my desire to climb mountains, though as I'm only young I'm sure it'll come back sometime. This has meant that I haven't had a proper mountain day since Easter, so I didn't feel ready to do the 15 Peaks. Although reading the planning thread on Friday night almost got me excited enough to join you! (I was in Bangor till Sunday, but have spent the last fortnight chilling out after my degree and pottering around sightseeing). That said, I think I would be up for a more happy go lucky attempt later this summer. I think somethoing like that would be good to get me 'back into' mountain walking. Curious - what time did the people who made it to Ogwen valley make it?
Posted: 26/06/2002 19:18

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