Paramo Fuera Ascent / Summit Hoodie

"And as long as water isn't under high pressure, it works. Just avoid leaning against wet crags and you'll be fine" why?

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 08:23

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 12:57

i just fancy having a go. and while i'm at it!!!! not a word about the awful pockets!!!

(harrupmphs off into the distance throwing the occassional bah! humbug! into the stream)

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 13:05

Well done Paramo...

...another interesting top for us to admire, but never be able to use in the real world as the sleeves are too short.

I cannot be the only person that thinks that Paramo might be just the technology I want in a jacket (I have their trousers and shirts) for walking and mountaineering, but cannot use them as the sleeves are no good if your hands are lifted up anywhere near your waist let alone above your head.

If the Quito had a bigger hood and more pockets then we might be in business. Oh well, here's hoping.

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 13:09

"If the Quito had a bigger hood and more pockets" then it wouldn't be light. it also meshes with the summit hoodies with the arm vents.

depends how long your arms are in proportion to your jacket size. i found the arms to be just fine. i hate the useless pockets in the ascent.

people often mention sleeve length in relation to garments for what they think the sleeve length should be for what they want to do rather than what for which the garment was designed which tends to dictate the sleeve length.

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 13:21

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 13:28

and ideally in a glass of something.

why would a jacket touted as suitable for "hill & hike" and "multi activity" be considered suitable for mountaineering?

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 13:54

I only mention arm length as all other brands fit me fine in the sleeve, whereas Paramo are too short full stop. I don't just mean for climbing, they don't cover my wrists when walking around in the shop, never mind in wind and rain. I'm only a size medium as well. My comment on arm lift was there to (over)emphasis the point.

I would have thought that anything called Ascent or Summit might involve some climbing (even if only over stiles) and the photos in the latest Parmao catalogue of the Aspira seem to suggest climbing. I could go on about multi-activity meaning just that etc. etc., but all I actually wanted to do was point out that all Paramo jackets would benefit from longer sleeves for me for any use and reading posts on other sites I don't seem to be alone in thinking this, but hey 'discussion' is all part of the fun...

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 14:45

why would a jacket touted as suitable for "hill & hike" and "multi activity" be considered suitable for mountaineering?

Why wouldn't it?

I've used a Montane Featherlite for "hill and hike", skiing (touring, downhill and XC track), orienteering, cycling... 

(If you want longer sleeves then go to Cioch or Hilltrek and have them make you up something in Analogy materials with exactly the length of sleeves you want.)

Pete.

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 14:54

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 15:49

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 16:11

you can use whatever you like for whatever you like peter as we all do. doesn't mean they are or have to be fit for your purpose though.

starnge about the paramo sleeves though. the only "short" (by design) ones i have are on my velez. i think the aspira sleeves may be of similarish lebgth too.

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 18:25

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 18:41

ta mike. twas a long time ago i tried one in the shop. i recall it being quite voluminous.

(ye gods i was using the albanian keyboard before i think)

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 18:43

Maybe i'm a fat bastard, but my Aspira(smock) isn't too baggy on me. I wouldn't change anything about the fit. I'm 5'10", 42" chest and 34/35" waist, and a size Medium does me fine over a baselayer and a 100 weight fleece. Mine is a good few years old, so maybe the sizing has changed?

I also use a size XL Velez as a 'street' jacket, and i'm happy with the fit of that too!  I think you can wear various sizes of the same model depending on what you intend to use it for.

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 19:05

doesn't mean they are or have to be fit for your purpose though.

Doesn't mean that... but doesn't mean otherwise.  I use the Featherlite for all the above because it is not only fit for purpose, but very good for purpose.

Pete.

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 19:44

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 20:02

I found that the paramo jacket does not fit me unfortunately  however I went to furtech and found that I could use one of their size XL's as they are cut a bit slimmer in the chest area and therefore gain the arm length.

This type of system is now being used by quite a few companies so its worth looking around.  I think another is called finnistere?

Posted: 18/11/2009 at 20:16